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View Poll Results: Schleck vs Contador in 2013
Alberto Contador 71 77.17%
Andy Schleck 13 14.13%
Other, for those who never vote but like to click buttons. 8 8.70%
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Old 12-27-12, 12:16
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He was at his best possible form, how much better could he have been than what we saw on the Tourmalet? He surely had to have some form to keep up with Schleck's huge accellerations.
I'm sorry but I rather trust Alberto's opinion than yours.

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If Contador has his 2010 form next year Schleck has a better chance of winning imo, he's got a great team too. The TTT might even put Schleck in yellow after the first real mountain stage.
What about Alberto's team? Kreuziger, Roche, Rogers are great additions to the team and for the TTT Saxo could have Kreuziger, Rogers, Morkov, Paulinho and Alberto. I can see Saxo beating Radioshack in the TT especially because Shack will have to drag Andy with them while Alberto is second best and maybe even the best on his team.
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The main problem is some people look into Contador as supreme being and others as guys who are doomed to be weaker. In order to underline this, the 2009 Tour and the 2011 Giro are memorized numerous times. Fans are eager to represent these 2 GT's like a natural objective relation of forces and any other results — like plaguy contigency, like ridiculous preposterousness which gave opponents chances. However the 2009 Tour is not the rule. It is just an unitary example. And that relation of forces is impossible to copy, reconstruct or replay. It was and it ended. Things never be the same again in details at least. So, if Contador loses or the fact that he can lose, it is not out of the system, even if it enrages you. It is a striking delusion. GT's are not monopolized. Deal with it and love cycling otherwise you will have to choke-bore within a year or a bit later.

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The main problem is some people look into Contador as supreme being and others as guys who are doomed to be weaker. In order to underline this, the 2009 Tour and the 2011 Giro are memorized numerous times. Fans are eager to represent these 2 GT's like a natural objective relation of forces and any other results like plaguy contigency, like ridiculous preposterousness which gave opponents chances. However the 2009 Tour is not the rule. It is just an unitary example. And that relation of forces is impossible to copy, reconstruct or replay. It was and it ended. Things never be the same again in details at least. So, if Contador loses or the fact that he can lose, it is not out of the system, even if it enrages you. It is a striking delusion. GT's are not monopolized. Deal with it and love cycling otherwise you will have to choke-bore within a year or a bit later.
I have no idea what you just said
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I have no idea what you just said
However I am convinced other guys understand me.

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Translation: Contador is not invincible, and you fanboys/girs are dilusional. 100% agree there.
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He was at his best possible form, how much better could he have been than what we saw on the Tourmalet? He surely had to have some form to keep up with Schleck's huge accellerations.

If Contador has his 2010 form next year Schleck has a better chance of winning imo, he's got a great team too. The TTT might even put Schleck in yellow after the first real mountain stage.

Still I'd rather not make any conclusions about this, Tirreno will be a good indicator.
I think Tirreno will be too early in the season to be a good indicator and Andy is usually there for training if 2011 was anything to go by. Some riders like Nibali and Evans, Sagan will be trying and others will be sitting back.
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can't vote don't no why

but it would be great when Andy had a better year in 2013 than Albert

so i "vote" Andy Schleck, why not
TDF will tell
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could anyone rewrite my post properly and send me by PM? Apparently I don't understand main syntactical things. I'd be very grateful
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could anyone rewrite my post properly and send me by PM? Apparently I don't understand main syntactical things. I'd be very grateful
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The main problem is that many fans believe that that Contador is a stronger rider than his opponents. They often cite the 2009 tour and 2011 Giro as proof of this, and this is annoying. The 2009 Tour is not the rule. It was 1 race and things do not remain the same. The 2009 Tour was almost 4 years ago, it took place and it finished. Times change So if Contador loses it will be because he is no longer as good and not because of any excuse his fans make up. It is delusional to think that Contador or any rider will dominate cycling for ever. And if you dont learn to accept this then you will be in for an uncomfortable surprise. If not in 2013 then a few years down the line
And i actually agree. Things change. Time is the great equalizer. Even great Kings fall eventually.

And the Contador era could be at an end. Maybe he wont be able to stay at that level as he goes into his 30's. The safe bet is though that in 2013 at least he should still be significantly better than the Nibalis and VDB's of this world, and have just enough to beat Schleck and Froome.

But who knows, maybe Froome and Schleck will truimph next season afterall.
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Old 12-27-12, 15:30
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Translation: Contador is not invincible, and you fanboys/girs are dilusional. 100% agree there.

Of course he isn't invincible; this is cycling and anything can happen. His powers may be on the wane, he could get ill, be injured, get stuck behind a crash and have Andy's team power on the front. Get left behind in crosswinds, puncture at the wrong time...so many possibilities....

It is that finishing 1st in 7 of the last 8 GTs he's ridden that feeds the illusion or delusion if you'd prefer Oh and being very competitive in any other race he chooses to ride

But the question is who will have a better season in 2013 Contador or Schleck.

Until Andy shows some type of form that he hasn't shown since July '11 it's kinda hard not to vote for Contador, at least for me....
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