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View Poll Results: Who will win 2013 GIRO?
Nibali 90 32.03%
Rodriguez 29 10.32%
Hesjedal 16 5.69%
Basso 9 3.20%
Wiggins 106 37.72%
Scarponi 2 0.71%
Others 29 10.32%
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Old 12-28-12, 13:14
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The Tirreno and Basque podiums were both due to holding on in the climbs (or being dropped) and strong time trialing. Oman and California were strong climbing performances... but against what opposition? And Gesink is usually very good in a race where there's little battling for position ahead of the climbs, of course you can't get much better than Oman or California in that regard.
In Oman the opposition was not that high I must agree, but the opposition in California was not bad.
Zabriski
Danielson
Horner
Leipheimer
Van Garderen
Nibali
Roche
Velits
Duarte
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half of those were in very bad shape. like duarte, who finished 3rd
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Old 12-28-12, 13:24
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henao will be leader in the vuelta. but still let's hope wiggins will fail quick enough
Why would you want a rider to fail? specially if its a team mate of Henao. Henao will learn allot from Wiggins and that will be very useful for the Vuelta and his further carreer. Henao has talent to ride for GT wins in the future.
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Henao the little wheelsucker of the Giro d'Italia. Big deal.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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Old 12-28-12, 13:26
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half of those were in very bad shape. like duarte, who finished 3rd
Duarte was in bad shape but he ended up 3rd, make no sense.
and all the Americans specially train to be top during this Tour of California so they are at their best as well.
Maybe only Nibali was not at his best (ended 30th or something) but the rest ended at the top of the standings, so you can't say that they were in bad shape.
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Old 12-28-12, 13:28
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Henao the little wheelsucker of the Giro d'Italia. Big deal.
If your not better then the guy that rides faster on the climbs all you can do is follow. It was not that he had any spare energy or something during the Giro. He went all out to stay in the wheel of the guys in front of him. You can't expect him to attack the whole time and then lose your place in the overal standings at the end of 3 weeks. No Haneo played it smart (same like Uran)
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Why would you want a rider to fail? specially if its a team mate of Henao. Henao will learn allot from Wiggins and that will be very useful for the Vuelta and his further carreer. Henao has talent to ride for GT wins in the future.
lol, like what? how to ride like a coward?
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Duarte was in bad shape but he ended up 3rd, make no sense.
and all the Americans specially train to be top during this Tour of California so they are at their best as well.
Maybe only Nibali was not at his best (ended 30th or something) but the rest ended at the top of the standings, so you can't say that they were in bad shape.
duarte was in bad shape, yes in good shape he would've won easily. look at last years trentino. also leipheimer was in very bad shape. horner wasn;'t great either
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If your not better then the guy that rides faster on the climbs all you can do is follow. It was not that he had any spare energy or something during the Giro. He went all out to stay in the wheel of the guys in front of him. You can't expect him to attack the whole time and then lose your place in the overal standings at the end of 3 weeks. No Haneo played it smart (same like Uran)
Then how did Thomas de Gendt win on the Stelvio?

Anticipation(and some luck).

But you know what they say: a good cyclist creates his own luck.
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horrible. boonen just the same guy as years before and this course is too hard for him. that's why he rode like a coward there were at least 3 guys stronger than boonen today and none of them won: sagan, ballan, pozzato
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In Oman the opposition was not that high I must agree, but the opposition in California was not bad.
Zabriski
Danielson
Horner
Leipheimer
Van Garderen
Nibali
Roche
Velits
Duarte
Nibali, Roche, Velits were on a training ride. Zabriskie... I can't remember ever having seen him on a climb in Europe, have you? Leipheimer had just broken his leg. Horner did a crap TT and was on the attack for the entire Baldy stage.

That leaves Danielson and Van Garderen. The latter is in trouble every time the gradient rises above 7%.

It was a nice race, and good to see Gesink back to his winning ways, but in the grand scheme of things it had little meaning. A few weeks later in Suisse even Leipheimer was already climbing better than Gesink.

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duarte was in bad shape, yes in good shape he would've won easily. look at last years trentino. also leipheimer was in very bad shape. horner wasn;'t great either
Whatever. Duarte is rarely in good shape. The fact is the other Colombian guy, whatshisname, should have won that stage. He could rest on Gesink's wheel and he was still outsprinted. Twice.

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