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View Poll Results: Who will win 2013 GIRO?
Nibali 90 32.03%
Rodriguez 29 10.32%
Hesjedal 16 5.69%
Basso 9 3.20%
Wiggins 106 37.72%
Scarponi 2 0.71%
Others 29 10.32%
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Old 12-28-12, 15:31
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Astana will also have a good support for Nibali, and Rabobank will have Gesink, Kruiswijk and Kelderman
Wiggo will have Henao, Porte, Cataldo, Kyrienka, Dombrowski... those are all better climbers than Kelderman, and better than whomever Astana will bring in support of Nibali.
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Wiggo will have Henao, Porte, Cataldo, Kyrienka, Dombrowski... those are all better climbers than Kelderman, and better than whomever Astana will bring in support of Nibali.
agree, Blanco should not try and out-train Sky (or Astana). Rather pinpoint a couple of key stages and go all in early and see if that shakes the tree.
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Wiggo will have Henao, Porte, Cataldo, Kyrienka, Dombrowski... those are all better climbers than Kelderman, and better than whomever Astana will bring in support of Nibali.
That's an overstatement. Dombrowski is unproven at the top level, specially in a GT. Cataldo is a top20 climber like Tiralongo, Kessiakof. Astana also have Brajkovic who has just done his best GT result. Sky has a very strong team, no doubt, but it's not like the others are worse.
About Porte, I can't remember the last time he did the Giro We'll have to see how he adapts to those climbs I guess.
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Wiggo will have Henao, Porte, Cataldo, Kyrienka, Dombrowski... those are all better climbers than Kelderman, and better than whomever Astana will bring in support of Nibali.
Porte and Henao I agree is just as good/better than Brajko.
Kyrienka have had a couple of extremely good days in his careers, but otherwise a second tier climber.
Cataldo, just as good/worse than Kiryenka.
Dombrowski, remind me how many tours have he done again?

Brajko, Agnoli, Kessiakoff, Tira, Seeldrayers is more than enough to make hell in the mountains.
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agree, Blanco should not try and out-train Sky (or Astana). Rather pinpoint a couple of key stages and go all in early and see if that shakes the tree.
Probably the first one they'll blow up is Gesink himself, his diesel takes a while to turn on.

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That's an overstatement. Dombrowski is unproven at the top level, specially in a GT. Cataldo is a top20 climber like Tiralongo, Kessiakof. Astana also have Brajkovic who has just done his best GT result. Sky has a very strong team, no doubt, but it's not like the others are worse.
About Porte, I can't remember the last time he did the Giro We'll have to see how he adapts to those climbs I guess.
Yeah I forgot about Tiralongo. Brajkovic is okay too, sometimes. Astana have a decent train as well.

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Probably the first one they'll blow up is Gesink himself, his diesel takes a while to turn on.
The alternative is the passenger route for Gesink. With a good TT performance, that approach could return a podium placement. Dull model perhaps, but solid result.
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you mean the Duarte that was 10th at Trentino?, yes so amazing and Rank number 200 at CQranking?
Your making a joke out of yourself every single post you make
you shouldn't judge races by looking up results afterwards, when you clealry haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.

he also won the queenstage in trentino 2011, trhat's what I was talking about
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Haneo did not work for Uran, they were both riding the max that they could every stage and did not work for each other. In fact they stimulated each other to a higher platform.
I guess you were braindead during the stelvio stage then
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I guess you were braindead during the stelvio stage then
Well d0h, Uran was already minutes ahead on GC by then, and had the white jersey.
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Regarding Gesnik, his chances of winning/podium finish will heavily depend on whether he has fully recovered from his injury.
While been surprised by his new found TT ability, his climbing was much worse last year.

Heck even in the TT, he lost time on the climbs while doing well on the flat.

Samu is another interesting contender and at 35 after recovering from a injury, I would think a win is very difficult but a podium spot isn't beyond him.

Good to see Nibali getting strong support. He's still my bet for victory.
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