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Old 11-14-12, 15:47
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I'm sure he's doping a lot now he's retired
Probably not but maybe they'll get blood values that will shed light on his previous BP data.
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Old 11-24-12, 09:15
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Iglinskiy, Gasparotto, Tiralongo?

All good riders and great wins, but clearly megadoped.
No, no, no. Martinelli says that Astana are a changed team; stopped doping and the results got soooo much better.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/asta...s-to-join-mpcc

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"Maybe we don’t talk about it so much, but we really do a lot (of anti-doping work). We have an internal system that monitors all cyclists day by day. We perform our internal controls."

"We are a team that has changed a lot in the last two years ago. We are seeing the results of that now."
Straight out of the Dave Brailsford PR school of sound bites.
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Old 11-24-12, 09:21
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The key being the second paragraph.

I'm yet to see a team which has suffered a decrease in results following an internal monitoring system.

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http://proteam-astana.com/en/news/pr...n-pending-code

Interesting!!!!
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Old 12-29-12, 08:02
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Yep, the one guy who you could say has actually ridden for them clean.
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Old 12-29-12, 09:04
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May be Kash and Vino aren't buddies anymore.

Agree with Ferminal. His results indicate he's not on the dope at previous levels.
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Old 12-29-12, 10:32
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"suspended for failure to agree with the squad's internal regulations"
well then why not keep this internal?
why is he hung out to dry on their website?

Garmin/Sky's perception is reality dogma has arrived in Kazachstan. Who'd have guessed?

He's an easy scapegoat. Are Astana's internal regulations like Sky's in that you should not have had any prior relation to doping? Guess not, as it would put Vino without a job as well..
So what's the deal here?
Kaschetchkin the only one with a conscience at Astana?
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May be Kash and Vino aren't buddies anymore.

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Old 12-29-12, 10:52
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former vp of the kazakhstani cycling (proskurin SP?), 'vino and kash can't be on the same team..'(quoted from memory, not verbatim).

consequences ?

unpredictable...from kash biting his pride again to kash going to town ala landis.

my bet is on the former but i'd put no cash on a wild horse like kash.
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Old 12-29-12, 10:53
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Could it be that he failed to agree to pay back his wages if he goes + ?
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Yeh my bet is Vino doesn't trust Kash. Either that or he's refusing to get on the program.
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