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In this age of transparency, can anyone find, anywhere, any of these internal code of conduct documents? Sky's rider agreement? Astana's code of conduct?
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It is not like he is getting fired or anything. He just hasnt signed some internal anti - doping contract. It will be signed before the races start, belive me

a non story....
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What makes you think they are clean?
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What makes you think they are clean?
Why shouldnt they be?
except Iglisnkys performance in LBL nothing they have done the whole year can remind anyone of a juiced up team...
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Why shouldnt they be?
except Iglisnkys performance in LBL nothing they have done the whole year can remind anyone of a juiced up team...
LBL and the Amstel were bad enough in my book. Gasparotto also third in LBL, and how about Kiserlovski...

Not mentioning the mountain TT in the Vuelta of course.

But you have some point, they learned how not to overdo it, just forgot that in the Ardennes Classics.
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LBL and the Amstel were bad enough in my book. Gasparotto also third in LBL, and how about Kiserlovski...

Not mentioning the mountain TT in the Vuelta of course.

But you have some point, they learned how not to overdo it, just forgot that in the Ardennes Classics.
AGR is a race that Gasparotto has done very good in the last couple of years, and when Gilbert was not at his best and no Sagan, well it does not exactly come out of the blue...

Agree that LBL was very strong indeed.

Kiserlovski has had a steady improvement over his whole career. Can't people improve in a sport without being juiced up?
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AGR is a race that Gasparotto has done very good in the last couple of years, and when Gilbert was not at his best and no Sagan, well it does not exactly come out of the blue...

Agree that LBL was very strong indeed.

Kiserlovski has had a steady improvement over his whole career. Can't people improve in a sport without being juiced up?
Okay, my pointing towards Kiserlovsky was not really fair.The other two - Gasparotto and Iglinsky - made me just angry in the Ardennes, okay riders but really, nothing special.
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Okay, my pointing towards Kiserlovsky was not really fair.The other two - Gasparotto and Iglinsky - made me just angry in the Ardennes, okay riders but really, nothing special.
Gasparotto is a very very very good finsher at the not to hard 700m-1.2km hills. His victory in AGR was no huge suprise (finished third in 2010) and with a Gilbert out of shape(ish) he grabbed his chance

Iglisnky has allways been imensely talented, but also imensely lazy (you could see that on his overweight body this years tour). This year he had pulled himself togheter for the spring classics and did very well from RVV to LBL (I agree that he was on the borderline of suspicious)
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It is not like he is getting fired or anything. He just hasnt signed some internal anti - doping contract. It will be signed before the races start, belive me

a non story....
If he'd been riding for Sky he would have gone to Saxo-Tinkoff without his points, or retired for health reasons.
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If he'd been riding for Sky he would have gone to Saxo-Tinkoff without his points, or retired for health reasons.
Kash does not retire for "health reasons" he is an honorable man that do not let "the man" mess with him. A true hero and role model for everyone.
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