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Old 12-31-12, 02:57
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Bio-passport is not an in-competition metric. It's a long score.
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But for the last time. Bio passport is a not an in-competion test.
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Lance smashed it at Flanders in 2010 and dropped a bag the night before and didn't trouble the Bio committee.
When did I ever say if was an in-competition test? That is a strawman argument.
Wiggins (and Sky) were winning throughout the year as has been pointed out many, many times.
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Old 12-31-12, 03:01
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Well, we know for a fact that riders and teams have been protected in the past, so that has to be on the list of possible explanations with all the rest.
That would certainly be a possible explanation.

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Nope, no proof of this but given recent history and the amazing timing of the rise of British Cycling, it is a question that has to be asked. As of this time, no hard evidence of this exists that I know of.
I am not saying that you need proof unless something is claimed as fact. There is plenty to be suspicious about and of that there is no doubt.
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When did I ever say if was an in-competition test? That is a strawman argument.
Wiggins (and Sky) were winning throughout the year as has been pointed out many, many times.
Exactly the point. They kept ther numbers consistent not to flag the off score. Still the bio doesn't test at races. Only a handful of times during the year.

Let me know if you need a hand when you're finished digging that hole.
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Old 12-31-12, 03:03
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What numbers?
Wattage numbers up mountains.
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Old 12-31-12, 03:13
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Exactly the point. They kept ther numbers consistent not to flag the off score. Still the bio doesn't test at races. Only a handful of times during the year.

Let me know if you need a hand when you're finished digging that hole.
What about dopers fatigue? You can't do it all year, remember?

Unless you work with Ferrari I guess. 100% guaranteed. I hear he was town and gown at Ferrara in Italy.
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Old 12-31-12, 03:18
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What about dopers fatigue? You can't do it all year, remember?

Unless you work with Ferrari I guess. 100% guaranteed. I hear he was town and gown at Ferrara in Italy.
Why get personal? Why mock?

Besides...

Sky didn't do it all year. They stopped at the Olympics. They all hit a brick wall.

Look at Wiggins at the World Championships. Terrible. Froome hit a wall mid Vuelta. Porte could barely pedal his bike to win a stage. Rogers died at the Olympics.

It had all gone.

Wiggins, Rogers and Porte lasted March to August. Which is 5 months. Nowhere near 'all year'.

Froome-dawg well, Froome-dawg just 'appeared' and went ET on everyone. Not even Basso could do that in 2006!

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Old 12-31-12, 03:40
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Sky didn't do it all year. They stopped at the Olympics. They all hit a brick wall.

Look at Wiggins at the World Championships. Terrible. Froome hit a wall mid Vuelta. Porte could barely pedal his bike to win a stage. Rogers died at the Olympics.

It had all gone.
GB did not have much of a chance at the worlds and after a long season it was not surprising that Wiggins was not as strong as throughout the year.
Porte seemed to do well on Stage 20 unless I am mistaken?
Froome came 4th in a GT after a big run in. More than decent.

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Wiggins, Rogers and Porte lasted March to August. Which is 5 months. Nowhere near 'all year'.
Given the cycling season is shorter than a year and Wiggins was racing from the Volta ao Algarve (Mid Feb) until World Road race (Mid Sep) that is more like 7 months. Which is certainly most of the cycling year.
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Old 12-31-12, 03:49
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GB did not have much of a chance at the worlds and after a long season it was not surprising that Wiggins was not as strong as throughout the year.
Porte seemed to do well on Stage 20 unless I am mistaken?
Froome came 4th in a GT after a big run in. More than decent.


Given the cycling season is shorter than a year and Wiggins was racing from the Volta ao Algarve (Mid Feb) until World Road race (Mid Sep) that is more like 7 months. Which is certainly most of the cycling year.
6 months. He'd hit party mode after the Games.

Froome lasted an extra month the rest died at the same time as Wiggo.

They hit the wall. The dopers wall. Sit down JV for a beer sometime and ask him about it.

You cannot dope all year. It's impossible on logistics alone.

If Froome and Wiggins were really that good that could have finished the WC race. Especially Froome. They were just crud. Froome pulled out of the ITT as well!

Nibali was attacking on the final hill at WC and he raced just as much as Wiggins.

Difference being Nibali is clean.

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Old 12-31-12, 03:58
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If Froome and Wiggins were really that good that could have finished the WC race. Especially Froome. They were just crud.
Comedy gold.
Obviously Cav not finishing proves he is doping as well.
Why would they bother to finish if they were pulling for other people and/or not in contention?

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You cannot dope all year. It's impossible on logistics alone.
I guess you know this from working at the AIS, right?

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Nibali was attacking on the final hill at WC and he raced just as much as Wiggins.
Difference being Nibali is clean.
Or he was motivated to finish as it was a race more suited to him.
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Old 12-31-12, 04:02
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Comedy gold.
Obviously Cav not finishing proves he is doping as well.
Why would they bother to finish if they were pulling for other people and/or not in contention?


I guess you know this from working at the AIS, right?


Or he was motivated to finish as it was a race more suited to him.
This is not about me.

Froome could out sprint Nibali up a hill.... When he was in ET Tour form no one could beat Froome up any type of incline.

Should have finished as JTL was still in with a chance.

If Froome and Wiggins are the natural talents that many here explain them to be then they should have been front and center in that race.

They were hopeless. Just terrible. Or maybe they'll just their natural selves?
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