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Old 12-31-12, 10:28
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Since ASO bought part of them, why are they not using some french climbs? that way they will put at least one decent multiple-climbs-mountain stage.
And also Larrau, Portillon and PSMartin all have a spanish side.
If they use it to do a proper French-Basque stage with Errozate, Bagargui, Arnostegui and Burdinkurutxeta, or a proper French-Catalan stage with climbs like Descarga/Batère and Llosa, then fine.

If they use it to do a generic Tour de France stage with Aspin, Peyresourde and the fricking Tourmalet, then not fine. If I never see the Tourmalet climbed again it will be too soon.
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Since ASO bought part of them, why are they not using some french climbs? .
Most likely because there's zero interest in France. The host towns have to pay for it, of course.
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Now also Cunego announced his presence in France.

This left Sanchez as last real big name peaking for Spain, and open the door for a dark horse or a young prospect to win his first Grand Tour. Wouldn't call it bad. Could become even very nice because of that, but of course it could also end in a Giro 2004 like scenario.

We'll see .....
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Now also Cunego announced his presence in France.

This left Sanchez as last real big name peaking for Spain, and open the door for a dark horse or a young prospect to win his first Grand Tour. Wouldn't call it bad. Could become even very nice because of that, but of course it could also end in a Giro 2004 like scenario.

We'll see .....
Only that at the tour there will be people who.crash or underperform and end up going to the tour.
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Old 12-31-12, 12:53
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Only that at the tour there will be people who.crash or underperform and end up going to the tour.
Yes of course. But still then. Some of them like Wiggins 2011 or Gesink 09 will be able to perform again, but others won't be able like Vandenbroek or Frank Schleck.

Sanchez also is one year older again and already had a little decrease in performance at the Tour in 2011.

Cobo, Anton, Uran, Rujano e.t.c are not very reliable as gt contenders. They could be very great, but also very poor. Most of the time if they are pretty decent it's fine

Then we have guys like Dombrowski, Anacona, maybe Atapuma, Henao, Kruijswijk who might be able to benefit from this, just like Cunego did in 2004. Maybe even someone I have totally forgotten to name yet.

Pellizotti would be a great contender. But I doubt Unipublic is gonna invite Androni. Would be a nice choice of course, better than Andalucia & Cofidis ....
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Just have to wait till January 12th.

But we all know what to expect from Unipublic.
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Just have to wait till January 12th.

But we all know what to expect from Unipublic.
Maybe they should install Angelo Zomegnan as race director


We will get about 12 mountain stages, the start will be at the Canary Islands and there will be a mountain tt at 40 degrees in morocco
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Old 12-31-12, 13:12
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Pellizotti would be a great contender. But I doubt Unipublic is gonna invite Androni. Would be a nice choice of course, better than Andalucia & Cofidis ....
Cofidis sponsor the race. Andalucía haven't got a ProConti approval yet so as things stand can't be invited.
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Cofidis sponsor the race. Andalucía haven't got a ProConti approval yet so as things stand can't be invited.
To be fair Cofidis also honored the race in previous edition and always had something to add with Moncoutie. So maybe they will bring up someone new again this year.

Andalucia was always a big disappointment. Hopefully Unipublic invites Colombia or Androni instead of them. But I'm sure we will get Katusha, alltough Rodriguez won't ride in the end
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so, can you recap all the rumours you got so far?
Considering the presentation is only 10 days away, there is a great deal of uncertainty.

What is known is there will be no less than 10, probably 11, possibly 12 MTFs. There's even been talk, in the press, of 13 MTFs.

Angliru will be climbed in the last stage before Madrid, and Unipublic have very clear intentions of toning the route down (even for their standards) in a clear effort to make the race stay close until Angliru. I'm not in the mood for a complete stage-by-stage description as you do with the Giro, but here's the overall picture I got from rumours and personal guesses:

Start in Galicia with a longer-than-usual TTT, then a couple of tricky stages ending in short Murs. One of them could feature the Mirador de Ezaro (2kms at 14%) the Vuelta unveiled this year, this time as a mountain pass, albeit quite far from the finish.

Moving down south with a stage finish around the Lago de Sanabria. Although they could do this:



They'll probably just finish here:

http://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/...DeLosPeces.gif

Then they'll head down towards Andalusia, finishing on Peñas Blancas: http://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/PenasBlancasS.gif and they'll then prostitute my baby by finishing on the Dornajo crossroads of this: http://unavueltamejor.files.wordpres...l-sabinas3.png

Who knows if they'll decide to include some climbs before those MTFs... on the Dornajo stage they should at least climb Monachil first.

It's not clear where they'll head to after that. There's been talks of a finish on the short and steep Valdepeñas climb again, and then I've read rumours about a mysterious huge new climb overlooking the Mediterranean sea in Catalonia. This: http://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/Caro.gif ? Or perhaps this: http://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/TuroDeLHomeW.gif ? My guess is it'll probably end up being simply this: http://www.ramacabici.com/altimetrias/ratpenat.PNG

Then we get to the Pyrenees, where the Andorran government has been publicly trying to get Unipublic to make a proper mountain stage out of the Collada de la Gallina stage, including more previous climbs than they used this year. Unipublic, of course, is pushing for the Andorrans to accept a washed down version.

After that, there have actually been rumours about a French stage, but that's all I know. Then there will be a finish on Formigal: http://www.altimetrias.net/public/formigal.gif with a couple of half-*** climbs before it at best.

The only ITT will probably take place around the beautiful town of Tarazona, and it will feature a hardish climb.

After that they'll head west towards Asturias, maybe stopping at Peña Cabarga on their way.

In any case, I'll be very surprised if we get even one real mountain stage. Actually scratch that, they might load up the Angliru stage, climbing San Lorenzo, Cobertoria and Cordal before it or something like that. Just because once you set out to do things as terribly as possible, you might as well go all the way.

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