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Old 01-03-13, 18:48
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1.4 million on "Bike & Performance Equipment" seems quite high for a team with a large bike sponsor.
If you're suggesting that's where they hide the doping costs then they must've decreased the doping substantially from 2010 to 2011
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and half a million for depreciation...
There's no way anyone would hide operating costs (e.g. doping products) in the depreciation account, that'd be ridiculously easy to spot. Of course the depreciation is substantial with their number of cars and buses which depreciate in value over time.
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Old 01-03-13, 19:01
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and half a million for depreciation...
Cars
Buses
Bikes & Components
Riders

All of the above lose value as they get older.
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Old 01-03-13, 19:34
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Have team's caught doping ever published there accounts?
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Old 01-03-13, 19:37
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Anger or a desire for revenge? Most murders are solved, as victims and murderers are usually well known to each other or related. Thus, in advance of committing murder, a rational person knows the chances of being caught are very high. Yet people still commit the crime. People do not always act rationally!
Even with all that in mind... it took Floyd Landis just shy of four years to come clean. Four years! And on the scale of disappointments, Houvenaghel wouldn't come close. Houvenaghel worked hard for a spot at the Olympics, didn't get picked, got angry. Landis popped positive, lost a protracted court case, served out a ban and was made into a living, breathing scapegoat, an example to the Armstrong generation. And he tried to come back but was thwarted at every turn. Unwanted in any major team, shunned and discarded like a piece of used trash by the guy he had that information about for a couple of years, keeping his mouth shut.

And it still took him years to decide 'to hell with this, I'm gonna scorch the earth'. And another two years on top of that for it all to swing around in his favour to the point where he's not some jealous, bitter hater but seen as the block that brought the whole tower crashing down.

If Houvenaghel does have a story to tell, we shouldn't be surprised that she's not just started blurting stuff out after any setback. Besides, in the grand scheme of the Olympic summer in Britain, amongst the British press I'm not sure anybody would want to listen to her story anyway. Especially as it would be against the UK athletes, sorry, "Team GB" (ugh), not Team Sky, so wouldn't benefit from the anti-Murdoch feeling amongst other sections of the press.
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Old 01-03-13, 20:00
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Even with all that in mind...
That's why when I raised the issue of Wendy H not having blown the whistle, it was just one of the reasons I put forward (and even then, clearly conditionally in the form "I wonder if...") as arguments in favour of the GB ladies being clean. (Their age and proximity to families were the main ones, though.)

In reality, the time-gap from the final blow to Landis (Lance refusing to give him a place on his team in 2010 when Landis finally realised his goose was cooked) to him blowing the whistle was actually quite short if memory serves. He wasn't grappling with this issue for 4 years before deciding to dob Lance in it.
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If you're suggesting that's where they hide the doping costs then they must've decreased the doping substantially from 2010 to 2011
Or maybe when they hired Leinders he 'fine tuned' their 'marginal gains'
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Or maybe when they hired Leinders he 'fine tuned' their 'marginal gains'
Seat adjustment comes under Sports science and medical in the accounts: 216K in 2011.
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I wake up every day, look in the mirror, pinch my chubby little cheeks and laugh - ive gotten away with it, again.
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Alright Dave, how is the knighthood treating you?
Couldn't be Dave Brailsford. Brailsford would never include a redundant apostrophe, as it adds unnecessary weight to the sentence. Marginal gains.
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