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Old 01-04-13, 08:03
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Wow. People here have obviously run large R&D projects. And yet, I get the impression they have not...

Cue everyone suddenly being ex-Boeing, IBM, etc... employees.
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Try reading it more carefully. That was the figure for office expenses. Research was £86k.
Yeah my bad. Thanks. Wait, what!? 368,000 GBP on office expenses. That's a lot of emails.

Am I reading right that they spent 1 million GBP on PR and marketing? Up from 200k in 2010. 2010 someone died and people got sick, 2011 the team starts going bonkers with results. All mimsy were the borogroves of correlation.
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Old 01-04-13, 10:44
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new sponsors Rapha have words to say about Wiggins



Oh it's laughable anyone here is trying to analyse Team Sky's expenditure. Not that it's stopped many of you in the past analysing with the barest minimum of information and lack of understanding. Just dive in anyway
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Here are Team Sky's audited expenses for 2011:



There is nothing there that suggests team wide doping.
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Oh it's laughable anyone here is trying to analyse Team Sky's expenditure. Not that it's stopped many of you in the past analysing with the barest minimum of information and lack of understanding. Just dive in anyway
Point taken.
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[URL="http://www.cyclismas.com/2013/01/secret-rapha-emails-reveal-code-of-conduct-requirements-for-wiggo/"]

Oh it's laughable anyone here is trying to analyse Team Sky's expenditure. Not that it's stopped many of you in the past analysing with the barest minimum of information and lack of understanding. Just dive in anyway
Jimmy, I do think that this section at least has been very much done tongue in cheek
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another example of why Vaughters' clean cycling PR shouldn't remain unchallenged:
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We also have to remind ourselves that Wiggins came out of Garmin, which runs the most stringent and visionary internal doping-program in sports. Argyle genius Jonathan Vaughters is confident that Wiggins is as clean as Christophe Bassons.
http://www.atwistedspoke.com/kimmage...gins-tour-win/

Does Vaughters really want clean cycling? His vouching for Sky achieves the opposite as it stops people from inquiring into Sky.

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OMG. What a load of tripe that guy is trying to serve.
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We also have to remind ourselves that Wiggins came out of Garmin, which runs the most stringent and visionary internal doping-program in sports. Argyle genius Jonathan Vaughters is confident that Wiggins is as clean as Christophe Bassons.
Shouldn't that be anti-doping?
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Just reading the Rapha press-release dressed up as a news story on the CN front page about Sky's new kit, and the following description of the Soigneur's bags jumped out:

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courier style bags with built-in cooling compartments for post-stage recovery drinks.
Join the dots. . .
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Here are Team Sky's audited expenses for 2011:



There is nothing there that suggests team wide doping.
Wow.

I've been critical of lots of the spurious 'proofs' suggested on here as evidence of Sky doping, but I've got to say presenting an audit report as an argument for them being clean is right up there on my 'hogo-meter' scale of dubious arguments.

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