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Old 01-07-13, 19:56
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I got over the shock long ago. The bad taste in my mouth, lingers.

Now, why would you suggest that this was a conflict of interest? Isn't cycling doing more than any other sport to support doping?

Dave.
Even just within the UCI, the two functions to both promote cycling and police cycling are in potential conflict.

Evidence from Hein's time and from recent years as well shows that it's unfortunately been more than just potential.

I can appreciate that a role within WADA would be in conflict with phat's and his family's cycling promotion and rider management work.

In addition, the general corruption of phat is in conflict with any role he could perform within the WADA structure (but that one is not as open as the other issues).
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Old 01-07-13, 20:06
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Even just within the UCI, the two functions to both promote cycling and police cycling are in potential conflict.

Evidence from Hein's time and from recent years as well shows that it's unfortunately been more than just potential.

I can appreciate that a role within WADA would be in conflict with phat's and his family's cycling promotion and rider management work.

In addition, the general corruption of phat is in conflict with any role he could perform within the WADA structure (but that one is not as open as the other issues).
let's not kid outselves.
the whole WADA is run by personal agendas.
WADA's vice friggin president is a certain Ljungqvist, described by Hoberman as highly corrupt.
And what in the name of the good Lord is Phat doing at the WADA!?
As if it's so friggin difficult to find competent, integer people.
Goodness me. The integrity of WADA for me is history.
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Old 01-07-13, 20:11
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Goodness me. The integrity of WADA for me is history.
Well Fahey is one of the worst politicians Australia has ever had. He only got the gig in WADA as a result of his political position at the time it was setup around the Sydney Olympics.

He had no previous sporting history or credibility.

Since the culture of an organisation takes its lead from the top, his history should be fairly informing.

A separate issue to Phat, but linked in terms of the whole arrangement of WADA.
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Old 01-07-13, 20:49
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Maybe Pat lost it that crazy night in Astana?

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13...ion-Board.aspx
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Maybe Pat lost it that crazy night in Astana?

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13...ion-Board.aspx
Priceless: “The UCI doesn’t know exactly what has happened.”

Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13...#ixzz2HKEUBusn

Isn't that the standard response for any question related to doping or anti-doping?

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Maybe they were fed up of the Fat Pointless Git clearing up at the buffet at WADA meetings....
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Old 01-07-13, 21:51
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Maybe Pat lost it that crazy night in Astana?

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13...ion-Board.aspx
Interesting bit:
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“This was the date that Mr. McQuaid’s one-year 2012 term on the Executive Committee ended.”
Somebody's not telling the whole truth. Phat's CV on the UCI website:
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Career in sports administration
National Coach Irish Cycling Federation (1981-1984) ; Board Member Irish Cycling Federation (1985-1994) ; President Irish Cycling Federation (1994-1998) ; Vice-president and Member of the Council of ASOIF (2009-...) ; Member of the Executive Committee and of the Foundation Board of WADA (2009-...) ; Member of the International Olympic Committee (2010-...)
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I was not aware he ever was part of WADA, and am shocked to find this out. How is (was) this not a conflict of interest?
Take a couple of steps back in order to understand WADA's relationship to sports federations. From top being most powerful, to bottom, least powerful:

***IOC****
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International UCI/IAAF/IOC's triathlon federation/etc.
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National sports federations
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WADA/National ADA's.

The rules are elaborate, but the simple summary is, the sports federations are completely in charge.

All this time with many, many comments all over threads in The Clinic summarizing the bio-passport as anti-doping theater and some of you are surprised that a more senior sports administrator is on WADA's board? This is yet another example of the anti-doping theater.

Pat's doping mis-management is not enough to be banished from the IOC as there are numerous people that have done more bad things than fix races, hide positives and more. IMHO, he's been stuck with the Armstrong doping controversy and they want the controversy out of sight.
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Well Fahey is one of the worst politicians Australia has ever had. He only got the gig in WADA as a result of his political position at the time it was setup around the Sydney Olympics.

He had no previous sporting history or credibility.

Since the culture of an organisation takes its lead from the top, his history should be fairly informing.

A separate issue to Phat, but linked in terms of the whole arrangement of WADA.
Do you make this stuff up? John Fahey was confirmed as President of WADA seven years after the Sydney Olympics. He played and coached rugby league in his youth and was a director of the Bradman Foundation since 2001. Former Premier of NSW and lawyer. Give up the rubbish that Fahey wasn't qualified or had no credibility. Did you hear what he said about the Armstrong case?
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For a senior cycling administrator to sit on WADA makes total sense as cycling is one of the key sports that WADA needs to have on board to implement its program and succeed in its stated mission (if you believe it has this in its best interest - I do). So nothing unusual or corrupt in this.

However, with cycling now so controversial, and the pendulum swinging away from the general belief that "it was only about USPS and LA (eg. limited terms of reference in Coates enquiry that Fahey refers to), it's all cleaner now", towards more fall out and potentially serious damage via a Lance admission, Bruyneel, Padua, new AICAR testing, UCI and national fed investigations, WADA (presumably Fahey) has chosen to remain at the moral high ground and continue to be part of leading the change in anti-doping.

Hence the dissociation of Pat. He is spent. Gone. Too much part of the problem. Just like Shane Sutton is spent at Sky. Just like Rabo opted out of sponsorship for the time being. Risk of being associated with the problem just too big. Particularly if the immediate future spells much more bad publicity to come. And the big elephant (general public) potentially waking up to doping and corruption in sport, rather than merely Armstrong doping in cycling.

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IMHO, he's been stuck with the Armstrong doping controversy and they want the controversy out of sight.
Next watch for IOC dissociating itself publicly from Pat & Hein and working behind the scenes for an elegant solution for those 2.
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