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Old 01-07-13, 18:30
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That ranking is almost as ridiculous as Cyclingranking.com
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31 Claude Criquelion 216
32 Greg LeMond USA 215

46 Adri VanderPoel 194
47 Oscar Freire 192

49 Michael Boogerd 187
51 Cadel Evans AUS 183

62 Andrei Tchmil MOL 171
63 Fred DeBruyne 170

75 Samuel Sanchez 158[/B]
77 Alberto Contador 156
Don't get me wrong, I know it's not easy finding an algorythm that ranks riders. But this seems hard to defend...
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My updated ranking.I put Contador back hoping fanboys'll stop bothering me.Even Luisle's re-instated +CAS and UCI now with me.Active riders: bold
1 Eddy Merckx 999
2 Bernard Hinault 499
3 Roger DeVlaeminck 475
4 Jacques Anquetil 474
5 Fausto Coppi 451
6 Sean Kelly IRL 416
7 Felice Gimondi 408
8 Joop Zoetemelk 407
9 Rik VanLooy 395
10 Francesco Moser 389
11 Gino Bartali 387
12 Raymond Poulidor 371
13 Louison Bobet 319
14Freddy Maertens 303
15 Miguel Indurain 301
16 Giuseppe Saronni 294
17 Herman Vanspringel 288
18 Nicolas Frantz LUX 270
19 Fiorenzo Magni 269
20 Hennie Kuiper 262
21 Alfredo Binda 259
22 Franco Bitossi 251
23 Ferdi Kübler 250
24 Walter Godefroot 249
25 Henri Pélissier 247
26 Jan Janssen 246
27 François Faber LUX 244
28 Frans Verbeeck 234
29 Rik VanSteenbergen 233
30 Laurent Fignon 230
31 Claude Criquelion 216
32 Greg LeMond USA 215
32 Stephen Roche IRL 215
34 Costante Girardengo 214
35 Lucien VanImpe 213
36 Jan Raas 212
37 Gustave Garrigou 211
38 Gianbattista Baronchelli 209
39 Tom Boonen 207
40 Raymond Impanis 203
40 Eugène Christophe 203
40 Paolo Bettini 203
43 Charly Gaul LUX 199
44 Phil Anderson AUS 198
45 André Leducq 196
46 Adri VanderPoel 194
47 Oscar Freire 192
48 Antonin Magne 188
49 Michael Boogerd 187
50 Wladimiro Panizza 185
51 Cadel Evans AUS 183
52 Vittorio Adorni 182
53 Pedro Delgado 181
54 Stan Ockers 180
55 Émile Georget 179
56 Philippe Gilbert 175
56 Learco Guerra 175
58 Charly Mottet 174
59 Louis Trousselier 173
59 Louis Mottiat 173
61 Cyriel VanHouwaert 172
62 Andrei Tchmil MOL 171
63 Fred DeBruyne 170
64 Hugo Koblet 166
65 Damiano Cunego 164
66 Luis Ocaña 163
66 Maurizio Fondriest 163
68 Lucien Petit-Breton 162
68 Rudi Altig DEU 162
68 Briek Schotte 162
71 Frans Bonduel 161
71 Léon Georget 161
71 Marino Lejarreta 161
74 Fabian Cancellara 160
75 Samuel Sanchez 158

75 Bernard Thévenet 158
77 Jean Alavoine 156
77 Alberto Contador 156
79 Italo Zilioli 155
80 Maurice Garin 154
81 André Darrigade 153
82 Robert Millar UK 152
83 Gaston Rebry 151
83 Jef Planckaert 151
85 Michele Dancelli 149
86 Gerrie Knetemann 148
87 Patrick Sercu 147
88 Dietrich Thurau DEU 141
88 Gianni Motta 141
90 Joaquim Rodriguez 140
90 Nino Defilippis 140
92 Giovanni Brunero 137
92 Octave Lapize 137
94 Heiri Suter SCH 135
94 Ludo Peeters 135
96 Maurice Archambaud 134
96 Carlos Sastre 134
98 Miguel Poblet 133
98 Eric Vanderaerden 133
100 Sylvère Maes 132
100 Philippe Thys 132
102 Peter Van Petegem 130
102 Maurice Dewaele 130
102 Andy Hampsten USA 130
102 Steven Rooks 130
106 Gastone Nencini 129
107 Pierino Gavazzi 128
107 Raphaël Geminiani 128
109 Tom Simpson UK 127
110 Michel Pollentier 126
111 Federico Martin Bahamontes 125
112 Fons De Wolf 124
113 Georges Speicher 123
113 Félix Sellier 123
115 Gaetano Belloni 122
116 André Dierickx 121
117 Georges Ronsse 120
117 Mark Cavendish UK 120
119 Eric Leman 119
120 Ottavio Bottecchia 118
120 Moreno Argentin 118
122 Hyppolite Aucouturier 116
123 Ercole Baldini 115
124 Silvano Contini 114
125 Francis Pélissier 113
125 Johan VanderVelde 113
127 Germain Derijcke 110
127 Vjatcheslav Ekimov RUS 110
129 Joaquin Agostinho POR 109
129 Jef Demuysere 109
129 Franco Balmamion 109
132 Thor Hushovd NOR 108
132 Jean-Luc Vandenbroucke 108
132 Henri Cornet 108
135 Rolf Wolfshohl DEU 107
135 Hans Junkermann DEU 107
135 Jean Forestier 107
135 Giovanni Battaglin 107
135 Émile Masson sr 107
140 Marc Demeyer 106
140 Jean Stablinski 106
140 Jean Robic 106
140 Honoré Barthélémy 106
144 Roger Pingeon 105
144 Pino Cerami 105
144 Julien Vervaecke 105
144 Andrea Tafi 105
148 Wim Van Est 104
148 Roger Lapébie 104
148 René Le Grevès 104
148 Oscar Egg SCH 104
152 Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle 103
152 Pascal Richard 103
154 Marino Basso 102
154 Georges Pintens 102
156 Marcel Kint 101
156 Pasquale Fornara 101
156 Miguel-Maria Lasa 101
159 Andy Schleck LUX 100
159 Charles Pélissier 100
161 Romain Bellenger 99
161 Rik VanLinden 99
161 Jo De Roo 99
161 Eddy Planckaert 99
165 Steve Bauer CAN 98
165 Charles Crupelandt 98
165 Robbie McEwen AUS 98
165 Michel Laurent 98
165 Firmin Lambot 98
170 Vincenzo Nibali 97
170 Lucien Buysse 97
170 Gaston Rivierre 97
170 Edwig VanHooydonck 97
170 Bartolomeo Aimo 97
175 Jean Aerts 96
175 Marc Madiot 96
177 Georges Passerieu 95
177 Filippo Pozzato 95
179 Stuart O'Grady AUS 94

179 Paolo Savoldelli 94
179 Lucien Lesna 94
179 Gilbert Desmet1 94
179 Fabio Baldato 94
179 Aldo Moser 94
185 Walter Planckaert 93
185 Peter Post 93
185 Francisco Galdos 93
185 Angelo Conterno 93
189 Ferdinand Bracke 92
189 Dimitri Konychev RUS 92
191 Daniele Nardello 91
191 Jean-François Bernard 91
193 René Vietto 90
193 Max Sciandri 90
193 Mario Beccia 90
193 Jules Messelis 90
193 Daniel Willems 90
198 Gösta Pettersson SVE 89
198 Ward Sels 89
200 Vito Taccone 88
200 Émile Daems 88
200 Beat Zberg 88
200 Erik Dekker 88
204 Ole Ritter DEN 87
204 Roger Swerts 87
204 Raymond Delisle 87
204 Henk Lubberding 87
204 Bradley Wiggins UK 87
204 Berten De Jonghe 87
204 Adelin Benoit 87
211 Lucien Aimar 86
212 Tommy Prim SVE 85
212 Félicien Vervaecke 85
214 Carlo Galetti ITA 84
214 Urs Freuler 84
214 Imerio Massignan 84
217 Guido Bontempi 83
218 Marc Sergeant 82
218 Gerben Karstens 82
218 Domenico Piemontesi 82
221 Willy Bocklant 81
221 Roger Rosiers 81
221 Louis Heusghem 81
221 Ernest Paul 81
226 Juan-Antonio Flecha 80
226 Johan De Muynck 80
226 Toon Houbrechts 80
226 Armand Desmet 80
229 Mirko Celestino 79
230 Jose-Manuel Fuente 78
230 Paul Duboc 78
230 Paul Deman 78
230 Luis Herrera COL 78
230 Joseph Bruyère 78
230 Ronny DeWitte 78
236 Hector Martin 77
236 Giulio Rossi 77
238 Robert Gesink 76
238 Rodolfo Muller 76
238 Roberto Visentini 76
238 Mariano Cañardo 76
238 Marcel Bidot 76
238 Davide Cassani 76
238 Antonin Rolland 76
238 Acacio DaSilva POR 76
246 Romain Gijssels 75
246 Rolf Gölz DEU 75
246 Peter Winnen NED 75
246 Guido Reybrouck 75
246 Giancarlo Astrua 75
246 Cyrille Guimard 75
246 Federico Echave 75
253 Luigi Ganna 74
253 Guido Carlesi 74
253 François Mahé 74
253 Alfio Vandi 74
257 Noël Foré 73
257 Marcel Janssens 73
257 Luca Paolini 73
257 Henry Anglade 73
257 Fons Schepers 73
262 Vicente Lopez-Carril 72
262 Jean-René Bernaudeau 72
262 Jean-Pierre Danguillaume 72
262 Julien Delbecque 72
266 Michel Frederick SCH 71
266 Mariano Martinez 71
266 Loretto Petrucci 71
266 Jens Voigt DEU 71
266 Giuseppe Olmo 71
266 Bernard Gauthier 71
272 Fernando Manzaneque 70
272 Éric Caritoux 70
274 Wout Wagtmans 69
274 Barry Hoban UK 69
274 Fritz Schaer 69
274 Fabio Parra COL 69
274 Joseph Fuchs 69
279 Raffaele Di Paco 68
279 Eduardo Chozas 68
281 Victor Fontan 67
281 Tuur Decabooter 67
281 Pascal Simon 67
281 Jelle Nijdam 67
281 Jan Adriaensens 67
281 Augustin Ringeval 67
287 Sylvain Chavanel 66
287 Knut Knudsen NOR 66
287 Willy Vannitsen 66
287 Leon Van Bon 66
287 Johan Capiot 66
287 Jean Dotto 66
287 Hector Tiberghien 66
287 Federico Gay 66
287 Etienne De Wilde 66
296 Stefan Mutter 65
296 Roger Rivière 65
296 Jos Huysmans 65
296 Jos Hoevenaers 65
296 Jean Rossius 65
296 Graziano Battistini 65
296 Francesco Camusso 65
303 Giuseppe Minardi 64
303 Édouard Wattelier 64
303 Constant Huret 64
306 René Pottier 63
306 Jean Brankart 63
306 Georges Vanconingsloo 63
306 Fermo Camellini 63
306 Bruno Monti 63
311 Romans Vainsteins LAT 62
311 Odiel Defraeye 62
311 Nello Lauredi 62
311 Léon Scieur 62
311 Joseph Van Daele 62
311 Haimar Zubeldia 62
311 Gilbert Bauvin 62
311 Arnaldo Pambianco 62
311 Angelo Gremo 62
320 Tom Steels 61
320 Sven-Ake Nilsson SVE 61
320 Roger Decock 61
320 Marcel Buysse 61
320 Jose Perez-Frances 61
320 Giorgio Albani 61
320 Francisco Gabica 61
320 Adolfo Leoni 61
328 Theofiel Beeckman 60
328 Staf Van Slembrouck 60
328 Severino Canavesi 60
328 Leon Van Daele 60
328 Giuseppe Pancera60
328 Charley Miller USA 60
328 Andrea Noè 60
328 Luc Roosen 60
328 Ronan Pensec 60
328 Luis Leon Sanchez 60
338 Thomas Vöckler 59

338 Ferdi Vandenhaute 59
338 Désiré Keteleer 59
338 Auguste Stéphane 59
338 Oscar Pereiro 59
343 Willy Teirlinck 58
343 Roberto Poggiali 58
343 Giovanni Valetti 58
346 Roman Kreuziger jr CZE 57
346 Leif Mortensen DEN 57
346 Jean Graczyk 57
346 Guido VanCalster 57
346 Frans Maassen 57
346 Diego Ronchini 57
346 Chris Boardman UK 57
346 Steffen Wesemann DEU 57
354 Pedro Torres 56
354 Martin Vandenbossche 56
354 Lucien Teisseire 56
354 Luciano Maggini 56
354 Gregor Braun DEU 56
354 Domingo Perurena 56
354 Aldo Bini 56
354 Ryder Hesjedal CAN 56
354 Chris Horner USA 56

363 Louis Thiétard 55
363 Frans Schoubben 55
363 David Moncoutié 55
363 Alfredo Martini 55
363 Alvaro Pino 55
368 Ugo Agostoni 54
368 Julio Jimenez 54
368 Guido DeRosso 54
368 Eric DeVlaeminck 54
368 Antonio Bevilacqua 54
368 Franco Chioccioli 54
374 Willy Planckaert, Romain Maes, Enrico Paolini, Beat Breu, Agostino Coletto, Eddy Schepers, Émile Joly 53
381 Edgard DeCaluwe, Martin VanGeneugden, Charles Meyer DEN, Antonio Negrini, Nico Verhoeven 52
386 Urs Zimmermann, Sir Hubert Opperman AUS, 386 Sandy Casar,Mario Vicini, Faustino Ruperez, Ambrogio Morelli, Alberto Fernandez,René Vermandel 51
393 Thaddy Robl DEU, Eric Van Lancker , Jules Van Hevel, Michele Mara, René Privat, Martial Gayant, Kim Kirchen LUX, Zbigniew Spruch POL 50

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Don't get me wrong, I know it's not easy finding an algorythm that ranks riders. But this seems hard to defend...
Hrotha worked out the scoring system when this list was posted last year.


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Won the Tour: +100
Not a Rider I Like: -10000
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Lol, Robert Gesink's about to pass Lucho Herrera and José Manuel Fuente. Ekimov and Agostinho are ahead of them. Lol.
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Classic win: +1000
GT win: +10
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Haha! YESSS!!!

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Im surprised Samu is so high. 2 points behind Cancellara. Didn't know the olympics meant so much to someone stuck in the 1960's.

Which begs the question where is that Kazakh? He not only won the olympics. He won Liege twice, which is the equivalent of like, 10 tour de france titles.

And Valverde? 10 tdfs 5 giros and a vuelta.
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The only way that list makes sense is if a GT is worth +- 30 points.

Judging by Gilbert's score a classic is not much less.

Contador: 5 GT's = 156 points

Gilbert: 3 Monuments, 1 WC, A few smaller classics = 175 points
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The only way that list makes sense is if a GT is worth +- 30 points.

Judging by Gilbert's score a classic is not much less.

Contador: 5 GT's = 156 points

Gilbert: 3 Monuments, 1 WC, A few smaller classics = 175 points
You are forgetting the "not a rider i like" function
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