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Old 01-09-13, 01:48
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That's why I didn't mention GC at any point when talking about him

It's unlikely any of Colombia guys can challenge for GC.

Stages / KOM are much better option. And Atapuma is the best guy there for me.
Atapuma has 1-2 good days a year. So hopefully he picks the right day.

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Old 01-09-13, 08:14
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Atapuma has 1-2 good days a year. So hopefully he picks the right day.
Atapuma's greatest strength (apart from climbing) is his recovery. I'd be far more confident about him performing in the final week than Duarte or Chaves.
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Old 01-09-13, 08:23
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Really ?

Good, not cracking. Atapuma could win a stage / go for KOM. Duarte is no way consistent to go for GC, can't even winning him a stage, maybe a hilly one. Who's else ?

Chavez willl be brilliant but can' see him getting great results at Giro yet. Duque ? ... Valencia has very good potential but can't see him doing much yet at Giro.

Calling the team cracking is bit too much... it's a good team for a wildcard like.

Really pleased for them, hope Atapuma can be deliver.
Talk about splitting hairs. jens has it spot on - the depth of the squad is too thin for two consecutive GTs, but they could easily pick a competitive team for the Giro. Atapuma, Chaves, Duarte, Duque (A GT stage winner, albeit a while back ), how many leaders do you want?

Where does this obsession with riding for GC come from? Guys get ripped apart by this forum for riding an anonymous top 10. I don't think any of us expect or want to see a guy like Chaves riding like Zubeldia at the Tour last year. If anyone does end up high on GC it will be the way Rujano/Parra did in 2005 - by losing a chunk of time early on then getting a load back in a break in the mountains when given some freedom by the GC guys. A stage win would be a huge success and that will be the aim, not GC. Expect attractive riding and some TV time, not an anonymous top 15 on GC.

Also I think you underestimate Duarte. He's already shown he can be competitive at the Giro when with Geox (would've already been a stage winner if not for the immortal Pieter Weening ).
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Old 01-09-13, 08:32
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Duarte was pretty disappointing last year, overall. Hopefully he can get back to his 2011-2012 (pre-injury) level.
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no way they can do tour too. it will be a mistake.
i think for this year giro is great and hopefully they can get in the vuelta too.
they said if they do both giro and tour they will get some extra riders. imo they should go for it and save duarte and suarez for tour or something and atapuma and chaves for giro. the tour is way more important in colombia and can really mean a lot historically
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Really ?

Good, not cracking. Atapuma could win a stage / go for KOM. Duarte is no way consistent to go for GC, can't even winning him a stage, maybe a hilly one. Who's else ?

Chavez willl be brilliant but can' see him getting great results at Giro yet. Duque ? ... Valencia has very good potential but can't see him doing much yet at Giro.

Calling the team cracking is bit too much... it's a good team for a wildcard like.

Really pleased for them, hope Atapuma can be deliver.
you clearly haven't got a clue about the team.
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Old 01-09-13, 14:24
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Duarte was pretty disappointing last year, overall. Hopefully he can get back to his 2011-2012 (pre-injury) level.
he was horribly undertrained like the rest of the team. atapum was their best guy because he had visa problems he was in colombia 3 weeks longer. normally he wouldn't be their top rider or even close. duarte, suarez, chaves are all a lot better and they also have number of bigger talents like osorio(injured entire year), romero and marentes(shoudl adapt well to europe)
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I'd love it if they got a wildcard for the Tour as well. I've heard a lot but seen little of these guys, and I am quite excited at the thought of seeing them next year at the Giro.
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he was horribly undertrained like the rest of the team. atapum was their best guy because he had visa problems he was in colombia 3 weeks longer. normally he wouldn't be their top rider or even close. duarte, suarez, chaves are all a lot better and they also have number of bigger talents like osorio(injured entire year), romero and marentes(shoudl adapt well to europe)
i hope they learned their lesson and will stay in south america to train instead of freezing in europe like they did last year. the colombians not coming prepared 100% to il giro would be devastating for the show.
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Old 01-09-13, 15:21
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he was horribly undertrained like the rest of the team. atapum was their best guy because he had visa problems he was in colombia 3 weeks longer. normally he wouldn't be their top rider or even close. duarte, suarez, chaves are all a lot better and they also have number of bigger talents like osorio(injured entire year), romero and marentes(shoudl adapt well to europe)
There has to be a big question mark over Suarez after last year. The other 3 showed something in spite of their poor pre-season, whereas he was consistently terrible. Atapuma was only in Colombia one week longer than the others - check his twitter from last January.

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