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Old 01-10-13, 13:25
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you are welcome for the link.

But totally disagree with Fotheringham being anything but Omerta. He is not fit to polish the shoes of others who took every opportunity to deal with the doping in the sport.

The Guradian are an absolute joke on the doping in cycling. They left the Armstrong issue alone for years. Would not go near it, with 1 or 2 exceptions.

They have recently jumped on the bandwago once it was safe to do so.

Just have to look at omerta mag 'Rouleur' that he is invloved in that will absolutely not address doping in its publication. Never. Let's pretend it does not exist.
Read what Fothrington said in 2004 on the Simeoni Incident hardly Omerta Stuff

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And don't forget you had to be careful what you could print about Armstrong in a newspaper at the time, just ask the Sunday Times
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Old 01-10-13, 13:44
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In an ideal world what would you guys WANT him to say in this interview?
Id like the truth, and sincere apologies to all the people he owes apologies to.
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Old 01-10-13, 14:47
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Id like the truth, and sincere apologies to all the people he owes apologies to.
Bodes well for Oprah!
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Old 01-10-13, 16:22
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The primary defense will be that "Everyone was doing it" "Level playing field"

Nonsense. Everyone was not doing it.

Scott Mercier did not do it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19930514

Lemond did not do it
http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/12/06...ed-at-the-uci/

Pat McCarty did not do it
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2012/12/2...ping-armstrong

Graham Obree did not do it
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...ar-411453.html

Gilles Delion did not do it
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/resul...97/doping.html

Christophe Bassons did not do it
http://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjusti...%80%99t-lying/

Nicolas Aubier did not do it
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/resul...97/doping.html

Andy Hampsten did not do it
http://www.dailypeloton.com/displayarticle.asp?pk=6730

Charly Mottet said no
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/s...481510,00.html

When Simeoni went clean what happened to him?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2004....tourdefrance1

Tyler Wren said no
http://tylerwren.com/articles/editor...alse-dichotomy

David Moncoutie did not do it
http://inrng.com/2011/02/david-monco...the-good-news/
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Old 01-10-13, 17:03
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Old 01-10-13, 17:14
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"Everyone was doing it" "Level playing field"
Everyone at the top level was doing it though, you've come up with barely a dozen examples some of whom were competing in the pre EPO era and as you can't 'prove' that they were clean anyway.
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Old 01-10-13, 17:30
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"Everyone was doing it" "Level playing field"
Everyone at the top level was doing it though, you've come up with barely a dozen examples some of whom were competing in the pre EPO era and as you can't 'prove' that they were clean anyway.
But they were at the top level ONLY because they were doing it.

Best of the dopers isn't necessarily the best overall, if they are riding clean. So no level playing field after all.

In any case, someone decided there shouldn't be doping, there are rules, if you break them and get caught you are out. Simple. Lancey-poo wasn't the first and won't be the last to be sanctioned.

Not to mention the aiding and abetting, trafficking, bullying, bribing etc. etc.
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Old 01-10-13, 17:39
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Maybe he'll have a rubber bulb with somebody else's tears taped underneath his armpit and a small tube connecting this to near his tear ducts. Similar to what Pollentier was caught with during the 1978 Tour?
Expect to see some arm movements moments before the crying!
Oh, they've already tested the machinery in the uk

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I'm almost 100% certain that Armstrong will play the victim card. He's done it all along during the USADA investigation. Only this time he will not deny as vehemently as he has always done. It will go somewhere along the line of:

1. Yeah, I did take performance enhancing drugs, but I didn't have a choice
2. My supporters are very important to me
3. I love my family/kids
4. I couldn't put them through this anymore
5. It's been extremely tough for me and my family the last few months.

Oprah will not ask any in-depth doping questions. She is neither knowledgeable nor capable of asking Armstrong any specifics. And she may not want to either, considering they are friends with each other. Oprah will go as easy as possible on Armstrong, maybe the occassional harder questions. But it'll be nauseating for the real cycling fans.

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Old 01-10-13, 17:51
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I'm almost 100% certain that Armstrong will play the victim card. He's done it all along during the USADA investigation. Only this time he will not deny as vehemently as he has always done. It will go somewhere along the line of:

1. Yeah, I did take performance enhancing drugs, but I didn't have a choice
2. My supporters are very important to me
3. I love my family/kids
4. I couldn't put them through this anymore
5. It's been extremely tough for me and my family the last few months.

Oprah will not ask any in-depth doping questions. She is neither knowledgeable nor capable of asking Armstrong any specifics. And she may not want to either, considering they are friends with each other. Oprah will go as easy as possible on Armstrong, maybe the occassional harder questions. But it'll be nauseating for the real cycling fans.
You forgot:

1) I am sorry that Tygart has put us all through this.
2) I am sorry that taxpayers money was used this way.
3) I am sorry that the foundation continues to suffer and with it, its quest for the cure....
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