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Old 01-16-13, 06:38
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That 2h50 Marathon was under the belt, Mike.
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http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthr...70#post1007870

from 1st September 2012...i had to gloat. Bro Deal also predicted it.

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Hmmm, I wouldn't be so sure his marathon results were PED free, because in the emails between Armstrong and Ferraris son Stefano he is discussing how he wants to meet "schumi" so he can run sub 2:50.
I asked before about this as either you or someone else mentioned he might have been on the program for the marathon's.

I asked if anyone had any information that pointed to this. Interesting that there is some evidence that he was doing something. Is there anything further?

Here and other places I posted that he is a horrible runner. If he was on the program and ran the race that slow then he should throw away any running shoes he owns. Or spend a couple of years at 80+ mile weeks in order to sort out his running troubles. Seems he will have the time since he won't be doing any IronMan's. The ****** bags that participate in IronMan's don't even want him. Sorry but I'm laughing at this because in my opinion the largest group of cry babies on the planet are involved with and participate in I.M.
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Mark Chapman lifts the lid on the secret world of drug abuse in cycling. With contributions from former Tour de France cyclists Tyler Hamilton, Matt De Canio, Christophe Basson. Lance Armstrong's former soigner Emma O'Reilly tells us about an abuse that was rife inside his US Postal Service Team during their period of dominance. British cyclist David Millar also outlines how the present and future of the sport are a different proposition.
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/...0115-1716a.mp3
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Old 01-16-13, 11:40
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I'm guessing it might be difficult to sell yourself as a cooperating witness if you were already the direct subject of a criminal investigation.
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Man, this guy ain't got no friends: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/u-s-...steblower-case

Hey BPC...er mountainrman, you better start your campaign against the US government now for not playing nice with Wonderboy. Too bad they saw through his bullsh!t (like we see through your's).

That ship can't find a port in a storm, right? I guess he should have come to Jesus back when Tygart graciously offered to let him in on the deal. That narcissistic personality disorder is a mother****er, right?
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I'm guessing it might be difficult to sell yourself as a cooperating witness if you were already the direct subject of a criminal investigation.
Not necessarily. Senior mafia figures have been rewarded in plea bargains for being "cooperating witnesses"

Also this is not just a "Lance thing" There were many involved not just lance, the team was systematic doping before Armstrong was ever involved as Mercier said, so fingers point elsewhere to "who started it and made it happen" to for example a very rich Thomas Weisel who is probably also good for the money.

In any event these same links have been on the Qui Tam thread for some time - more information is in the CBS news article I put up a long time ago . Decision day is tomorrow for whether they join Qui Tam - although I gather DoJ can launch their own action without Landis - which I would prefer, since I do not see why Landis should get rich out of this.

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Old 01-16-13, 11:50
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Not necessarily. Senior mafia figures have been rewarded in plea bargains for being "cooperating witnesses"

Also this is not just a "Lance thing" There were many involved not just lance, the team was systematic doping before Armstrong was ever involved as Mercier said, so fingers point elsewhere to "who started it and made it happen" to for example a very rich Thomas Weisel.
Lance's problem is he was the one constant player in his doping realm. The partners varied over time. The government does have a bit of experience taking down drug lord empires.
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I asked before about this as either you or someone else mentioned he might have been on the program for the marathon's.

I asked if anyone had any information that pointed to this. Interesting that there is some evidence that he was doing something. Is there anything further?

Here and other places I posted that he is a horrible runner. If he was on the program and ran the race that slow then he should throw away any running shoes he owns. Or spend a couple of years at 80+ mile weeks in order to sort out his running troubles. Seems he will have the time since he won't be doing any IronMan's. The ****** bags that participate in IronMan's don't even want him. Sorry but I'm laughing at this because in my opinion the largest group of cry babies on the planet are involved with and participate in I.M.
I'm anti-Lance, known he's a doper for many years like 90% plus of posters here (defensive context for the following comment ) - I have run enough marathons to know not to compare mara performance to other endurance sports -why? injuries, pure and simple. Unless a runner is in the very small percentage who are perfectly build and aligned for running, injuries are a fact of life. I've had mara times vary by 30 minutes depending on state of ITB, PF and bursitis injuries. So I don't think it is reliable to say that a (relatively) crap mara time of 2:50 is a sign of being a (relatively) crap cyclist. 80+miles per week is the dream, but very very few can sustain that level of running uninjured.
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