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It is also a phrase for a medical programme. You know, medicine and stuff
EPO, HGH, Steroids are all known medicine's and stuff.
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EPO, HGH, Steroids are all known medicine's and stuff.
S o is cough syrup. The point I'm driving it is infering doping from 'medical programme' is meaningless
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S o is cough syrup. The point I'm driving it is infering doping from 'medical programme' is meaningless
Not in pro cycling it isn't. Plenty of evidence to suggest that. Bassons once said that cycling teams only have team doctors for 1 reason, Doping. He said he never needed the Doctor for performance and when he did need a doctor he would go to his GP.
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S o is cough syrup. The point I'm driving it is infering doping from 'medical programme' is meaningless
Your being to literal, I think most people know that when the words 'medical and program' are used together in a cycling context the meaning is quite clear.
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Your being to literal, I think most people know that when the words 'medical and program' are used together in a cycling context the meaning is quite clear.
Then a rider on a doping programme would certainly to refer to it as that when they are speaking to the press....
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It's the cycling equivalent of doing a robbery dressed in a horizontally-striped shirt, a black mask over your eyes and carrying a large bag with 'SWAG' written on it
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Not in pro cycling it isn't. Plenty of evidence to suggest that. Bassons once said that cycling teams only have team doctors for 1 reason, Doping. He said he never needed the Doctor for performance and when he did need a doctor he would go to his GP.
Just re-read Matt Rendell's "The death of Marco Pantani" & the chapter on Blitz at the Giro in 2001 (when Barlalucci was detained & named) Rendell spoke with Pantani's team doctor Magnani in 05. "He (Magnani) had been pressured to treat riders with anti-inflammitory containing molecules used to treat arthritis, antioxidants used in hepatic disease. But Magnani wasn't at the Girofficial team doctors were used as fences by the doping doctors"

Makes me even more suspicious of Baralucci that he was there (albeit with a different team).
Is he still on Sky's books?

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Just re-read Matt Rendell's "The death of Marco Pantani" & the chapter on Blitz at the Giro in 2001 (when Barlalucci was detained & named) Rendell spoke with Pantani's team doctor Magnani in 05. "He had been pressured to treat riders with anti-inflammitory containing molecules used to treat arthritis, antioxidants used in hepatic disease. But Magnani wasn't at the Girofficial team doctors were used as fences by the doping doctors"

Makes me even more suspicious of Baralucci that he was there (albeit with a different team).
Is he still on Sky's books?
this is a hihgly crucial, highly interesting, highly revealing bit you're citing here.
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In 2012 he was on the payrol.
If you speak italian, here's a 2012 interview with Bartolucci about Team Sky.

http://video.sky.it/sport/ciclismo/d...ore/v87710.vid
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a reminder, i think from the sky thread a coupla months ago.

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Dr. Fabio Bartalucci has been with Sky since last year and he was one of those who was served notice by Italian prosecutors back in 2001 when he was Doc with the Bonjour team.
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