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Looks like King Obama will rely mostly on executive orders to handle the "gun problem" because getting stuff through Congress will be difficult. Most of the nineteen orders look okay.

Meanwhile states legislators are considering firearms rights protection acts to protect the people's rights against encroachment by the feds.
Texas should be a hoot.
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A southwestern Pennsylvania hospital will stop delivering babies after March 31 because its obstetricians are either leaving or refocusing their practices, and because hospital officials believe they can't afford it based on projected reimbursements under looming federal health care reforms.
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/2060306...aby-deliveries

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So when the private sector fails, blame it on socialism. Bravo!

Ok, but, I thought yous guys were more resilient than being ideologically motivated to throw a wrench in the works.

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7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

weren't we discussing responsible ownership earlier?
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that's been a problem for years. one of my cousins went gyno only a few years ago because malpractice insurance premium prices for obstectrics made it a loser, despite the fact he'd had no claims against him.
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that's been a problem for years. one of my cousins went gyno only a few years ago because malpractice insurance premium prices for obstectrics made it a loser, despite the fact he'd had no claims against him.
Velocity will tell you tort reform would have no impact to cost of care. ACA didn't even try and address Med/Mal.
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Velocity will tell you tort reform would have no impact to cost of care. ACA didn't even try and address Med/Mal.
Velocity will tell you that we shouldn't even be bothering with Obamacare which while a step in the right direction is really just like using a band-aid to heal a broken leg and we should be scrapping our entire health care "system" and adopt wholesale universal health care but the problem there is that, as with guns, climate change, and well just about everything really, it triggers the conservative knee-jerk paranoia about how it's REALLY about government control, socialism, uh what were some of the others, Scott? Help me out here. Oh statism, that was a good one.

Hey death panels.
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I would think a thoughtful guy such as yourself might be interested in actually addressing the real problems. But, no.
Thought we covered this already? Here's a nice, easy-to-understand chart of the real problems that might make it clearer:

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Improve mental illness system - yes.
Reduce crime - yes.
Stricter gun control - yes.

Right:
Improve mental illness system - yes.
Reduce crime - yes.
Stricter gun control - no.

Yep, we're on board for addressing the real problems. When are you guys coming on?
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7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

weren't we discussing responsible ownership earlier?
Yup. That sounds suspiciously like hersey to the liberal cause. If that was not bad enough, check out this one.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

Looks like dat Obama may have turned into a durned conservative.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...n-restrictions

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According to a Time-CNN survey released Wednesday, 55 percent said they approve of the job the president is doing, against 43 who said they disapprove. Obamaís job approval was at 52 percent in the same poll conducted in late December, a marked increase from his first term, when he generally tracked in the 40 percent range.

The publicís support for tighter gun laws nearly matches Obamaís approval rating, with 55 percent saying they support stricter measures, against 44 who said they oppose, according to the poll.
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Vice President Biden, who spearheaded the presidentís gun task force initiative, enjoys the best rating of all at 59 percent approval, up from 54 in December.
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