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Old 01-15-13, 16:53
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HEAD'S UP!!!

I'm going to change the title of this thread to Global Politics. I'm going to change the title of the other thread to US Politics.

I've mentioned this before and didn't get much resistance or response, so if anyone has anything to say, do so now.
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Old 01-15-13, 17:03
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Old 01-16-13, 21:43
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Changed the title of the thread. Please try to post accordingly as much as possible.

As before, any and all new political threads will be merged into this (or the US Politics) thread.
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Old 01-17-13, 18:00
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I agree with his views on free-market economics, global warming and euroskepticism.
Free-market and euroskepticism are contradictory.

And I don't see any difference between EU and Anzus (only EU has a political side).

Conservativeness opposes Free-Market, obviously. That makes you a left-winger !
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Old 01-17-13, 20:59
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Free-market and euroskepticism are contradictory.

And I don't see any difference between EU and Anzus (only EU has a political side).

Conservativeness opposes Free-Market, obviously. That makes you a left-winger !
Conservatism does not oppose free market. Modern day conservatism or neoconservatives support free markets but also support the foundations of society and the traditions that have served society well over hundreds of years.

ANZUS is a war treaty, EU is a parliament for a particular region. Completely different so please come back to planet earth on that point. Euroscepticism and free markets are not contradictory. You can have free markets but not have a joined parliamentary body and joined currency, both of which have failed dismally. A European Union that has a few countries doling out money to multiple countries who are floundering is not what you would classify has laissez-faire/free market economics. It is largely supporters of the left that are pushing for the EU than those on the right. Euroscepticism is more a feature of right-wing politics, even if it traditionally isn't.

I am not a left winger because I believe that a social hierarchy and some level of social and economic injustice is natural to any prospering society and that people should have the opportunity to work themselves up to higher levels of economic success and not be spoon-fed by the state, something that a left winger supports.
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Old 01-17-13, 22:22
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I am not a left winger because I believe that a social hierarchy and some level of social and economic injustice is natural to any prospering society and that people should have the opportunity to work themselves up to higher levels of economic success and not be spoon-fed by the state, something that a left winger supports.
Sorry, short of outliers like Cuba, which is a dictatorship anyway, which left-wing countries lack those elements again? Last time I checked, all social democracies of the left have social hierarchy, some level of social and economic injustice, and offer individuals the opportunity to work themselves up to higher levels of economic success, because all of them are free-market-based economies.
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Sorry, short of outliers like Cuba, which is a dictatorship anyway, which left-wing countries lack those elements again? Last time I checked, all social democracies of the left have social hierarchy, some level of social and economic injustice, and offer individuals the opportunity to work themselves up to higher levels of economic success, because all of them are free-market-based economies.
Bear in mind that ACF is very young.
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Sorry, short of outliers like Cuba, which is a dictatorship anyway, which left-wing countries lack those elements again? Last time I checked, all social democracies of the left have social hierarchy, some level of social and economic injustice, and offer individuals the opportunity to work themselves up to higher levels of economic success, because all of them are free-market-based economies.
There is a difference between left wing and centre-left, my friend. Might I add that I think many countries in fact don't allow individuals enough opportunity to work themselves up to higher levels of economic success. This is due to too much welfare and too strict IR laws

Amsterhammer, I am confused at why you would say that.
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Where do we find these so called free markets...
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Where do we find these so called free markets...
Most countries to differing degrees are free-market economies, which does not mean that there aren't centre-left governments running them.
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