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Old 01-24-13, 12:13
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Cofidis was also TdF 2012.
That was Astana really, not Cofidis.
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Old 01-24-13, 12:19
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Have any of the Sky defenders on here read

Bad Blood
Rough Ride
or Hamiltons book?

I have just started Hamiltons book so not finished it yet. BUT Last night again I just sit and think "More similarities to Sky" same with the other two.

What do the defenders do? "Jesus, thank god we have a clean peloton now" and totally ignore the fact there are so many coicidences its untrue?
Did you note the similarities to the "Ferrari way" and Wiggins/Froome? Weight, power, food etc?

Very similar.
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Old 01-24-13, 12:58
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martin i have read many cycling books......rough ride...from lance to landis
.........the secret race etc

i have doubts over ANY pro cyclist

i never got excited about brads win.........or cadel's before it as i know
the truth

but here i try and bring a sense of 'reality' pointing out flaws in reasoning
and mock outrageous statements most of all hoggies porkies
This goes for me, too....................exactly.
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Old 01-24-13, 13:00
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That was Astana really, not Cofidis.
Hi L'arri

I was talking about this

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Di Grégorio was arrested at his hotel at the Tour de France. Two other unnamed individuals were also arrested, one of whom was a self-styled naturopath who had injected the rider with ozone, a banned practice. The third person was released.
http://www.dopeology.org/incidents/D...9gorio-arrest/

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Cofidis Suspends Tour de France Rider Di Gregorio Over Doping Suspicions
Following police raid and discovery of performance-enhancing drugs in hotel room, French rider is removed from race
http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-fra...ping-suspicion

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Iíll be keeping a close eye on Sky. If I see doped performances I will call them out.
So this is how it work with you: You see super impressive performances. You call them out as being doped.

Seriously you should learn to enjoy cycling more.
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Old 01-24-13, 13:16
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So this is how it work with you: You see super impressive performances. You call them out as being doped.

Seriously you should learn to enjoy cycling more.
No. That's how it works with Sky. Their performances were not "super impressive". They were "not normal".

There is a difference.
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Old 01-24-13, 13:18
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No. That's how it works with Sky. Their performances were not "super impressive". They were "not normal".

There is a difference.
Like you would know
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Old 01-24-13, 13:18
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martin i have read many cycling books......rough ride...from lance to landis
.........the secret race etc

i have doubts over ANY pro cyclist

i never got excited about brads win.........or cadel's before it as i know
the truth

but here i try and bring a sense of 'reality' pointing out flaws in reasoning
and mock outrageous statements most of all hoggies porkies
I think this would seem a sensible position to take and one I'd agree with.

p.s. how does one get offended at 'misuse' of a forum handle?? Seems to be a lot of intentional Wiggans, Johan Brailsford, Liestrong Phat etc. bandied about the place anyway that goes unnoted.
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Old 01-24-13, 13:20
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If a British (or Sky rider) was caught - mainland Europe would shrug, the new fans in the US (if there are any left) wouldn't even know who it was. It would be another embarrassment for true cycling fans, of whatever nationality, but they will remain.
It would be only big in Britain.

Pro Cycling will never die - but it is at rock bottom and has been there some time now. Races going under, merry go round of sponsors, dodgy sponsors (Pegasus), falling participation in racing at entry level.
it's not. global cycling growth has been enormous for many years now and viewing numbers for big races are too. the tour is the biggest it's ever been.

I remember in 1998, people said it's the end of cycling/tour. 1998 became the most watched tour up to then. in fact festina sold more watches in 1998 then they ever did since, because of that. that's also why the continued as a sponsor.

in the end people don't care for doping. it's like pro-wrestling people like the action and suspense of disbelief. vino is the most popular cyclist and everyone knows he has doped, that doesn't make him any less popular. I dare say even to the contrary, because he came back and kicked everyone's ***. I was at the giro start in amsterdam. the people when vino started went more nuts then all the other cyclists combined. something I've never seen in bike race before.

the balco and mlb doping case. since then mlb crowd attedances have bene bigger than ever. more merchandise sold than ever and viewing numbers.

in bodybuilding you have 2 forms of competition. the one clean and the one where you can use wat you want. which do you think is the biggest and most popular you think?

don't let what a few idiots in the clinic think and want shroud your judgement.
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Old 01-24-13, 13:21
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Will you call out non British or Aussie Sky riders then Hog? Like Columbian, Scandinavian, American or whatever?

I wont hold my breath.
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