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Old 01-26-13, 18:45
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Again, this is definitely possible, but there is hardly proof that this is what happened.

- 31 was a perfectly fine age to stop in the eighties.
- Herrera had a better year in 1991 than in 1989. Even 1992 was not significantly worse than 1989.
- Alvaro Mejia had his best year in 1993
- Fabio Parra was very constant in Spain throughout 1990-1991-1992. He dropped out of the TdF, but he also did just that in 1986 and 1989.

The evidence here is not supporting your hypothesis.
except this

http://www.cyclinginquisition.com/20...d-how-epo.html

and I'm sure he's speaking the truth.
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Old 01-26-13, 18:59
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except this

http://www.cyclinginquisition.com/20...d-how-epo.html

and I'm sure he's speaking the truth.
No that article is full of factual error's. Cafe de Colombia finished in 1990. Was EPO widespread then? No. Just to give another example, Cardenas talks about having a conversation with Konychev at the Giro. The only year they rode together at the Giro was 89!! Whenever that incident happened, it was unlikely to be at the Giro in 89.

Postobon pulled the plug when Herrera did, if Herrera had continued so would Postobon most likely. At the start of 92, Herrera had already decided it was his last season.

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Old 01-26-13, 19:47
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where exactly has botero been caught on doping? and he's not from the 90s.
We've already been over this, but you refuse to acknowledge his being cleared in Puerto was bogus. So I won't try again.

So: Peña, Castelblanco.
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Old 01-26-13, 20:05
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Im glad you feel that way...I have no idea what you're talking about(nor do i think you do)...but ok.
You know, I'm walking away here

This is becoming surreal.
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Old 01-26-13, 20:09
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Found it(is this not you CLEARLY SAYING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE 80S CYCLING):

Dude, wtf.....YOu CLEARLY said you didnt know anything about 80s cycling........(I even posted what you said above)
My god, dude, are you illiterate? This is not what he said at all.

"Why do you think I know nothing of cycling in the 80'ies?"

he's asking someone else why they think he knows nothing of 80's cycling. That is, he's contradicting that other person's assertion that Franklin know's nothing of 80's cycling.

Probably a good idea to stay out of forums until you gain some reading comprehension.

Putting it all in caps just highlights your idiocy. Normally I'm sympathetic to impaired folks, but you just come off as a dumb loudmouth ****.
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Old 01-26-13, 20:11
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You know, I'm walking away here

This is becoming surreal.
it is.
not long ago, i was in a similar discussion with the same poster.
the logic of, and differences between, claim, speculation, proof, evidence, supposition, assumption, etc. are not really dawning on him, even though he's definitely a good lad.
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Old 02-07-13, 13:55
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From CN's front page:

Click > Bishop: I was the clean rider in the 1988 PDM Tour team
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Old 02-07-13, 14:05
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to me Bishop sounds fully credible.
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“I’m not sure, honestly, I think that’s in the kokers but believe me I did not take anything external and I never took them.
i.e. riders being doped without knowing.
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Old 02-07-13, 15:20
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We've already been over this, but you refuse to acknowledge his being cleared in Puerto was bogus. So I won't try again.

So: Peña, Castelblanco.
Not only that, but Botero is completely doomed for being only one of the few who was actually seen going to Fuentes apatment by the Madrid Police. In addition to that they found blood bags with his code name from that same day. As a final remark there is a phone call where it was specified that he was going to do a donation. That's pretty damning. Now in the Fuentes trial his name has come up several times. That sucks if your name is Botero.
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Old 02-07-13, 16:03
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can someone help me with the term "kokers"?

I looked it up several places and most of it refer to a "water boiler" or "tube" to transport water. Anybody have a better description?
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