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Old 02-03-13, 12:38
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I just read that Louisville and USA Cycling had to step in to make for a $250K shortfall because a major sponsor failed to come up with promised $$. More striking is that they have sold only 2500 tickets! Unless that dramatically improves this will be the last World's held in the US. Let's face it, the US is not, nor will it be ever be, receptive to the great sport of cross or for that matter any cycling event. Americans just don't get it and never will. That's my pessimistic take on it.
I would call the event a success.
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Old 02-03-13, 14:16
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However, it should be said that during the world cups, Mathieu van der Poel was posting laptimes as fast as the better pro's ...
While that is impressive, I don't put much stock in lap times across races. There is a lot of strategy going on and lap times can be affected by crashes (own or other riders), riders blocking, etc. It is at best a rough metric.
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Old 02-03-13, 17:35
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Nr 1, 2 and 4 all 30+ ..vd Haar 21. Amazing considering how hard the course was in the end
Stybar, Albert & Boom did as well at the same age. Even Nys back in the days. So that's not uncommon, though.

VDH also raced less this season (which is normal at that age but he was fresher).



Agreed with Kwibus. Nys has often been trashed for his Worlds losses and his too heavy schedule, despite winning it already once. Two titles is probably more to his standards.

But it shows that in the end, what matters is consistency throughout the winter, like on the road, what matters is consistency throughout the season.

Nys is probably the greatest crosser of all time (while some won many more World titles) because he got so many ranking events. And Albert is probably the best crosser of 2012/2013 despite is monumental flop of yesterday.
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Old 02-03-13, 18:49
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Gotta love those American cyclocross fans
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Old 02-03-13, 20:39
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Do you reckon Van der Haar and Van der Poel will move to road racing full time in the future. especially Van der Poel coz his father was also a very good road racer and Mathieu himself finished in the top 10 at the Junior Worlds' last year.
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Do you reckon Van der Haar and Van der Poel will move to road racing full time in the future. especially Van der Poel coz his father was also a very good road racer and Mathieu himself finished in the top 10 at the Junior Worlds' last year.
Van Der Haar has in interviews expressed his preference for the field, so I think it is unlikely that he would switch to the road. For Van Der Poel it remains to be seen; I hope he can somehow combine road succes and field succes, like his father.
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Old 02-04-13, 17:19
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After his first U23 World title, van der Haar said he found road cycling boring. Loved it and just agreed.

He's never been great on the road. Mike Theunissen and Gertjan Bosman were always far better than him.

Until last summer when he finally got a stage win in the Tour du Nivernais-Morvan, allowing him to race as a 'stagiaire' for the Rabobank Road Team.




I hope Matt van der Poel will stay in the prairies all his career. I'm rather fed up with the idea that a good crosser should always switch to the road, just because some cycling fans are not interested in cyclocross. Stybar and Boom will never become big stars on the road. I hope Styby will come back. The prairies are his playground.

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I'm rather fed up with the idea that a good crosser should always switch to the road, just because some cycling fans are not interested in cyclocross. Stybar and Boom will never become big stars on the road. I hope Styby will come back. The prairies are his playground.
Unfortunately, the UCI seems to treat 'cross and mountain biking as development channels for the road show. The UCI are even trying to get a new MTB format that looks like quick-summer 'cross with jumps someone dreamed up into the Olympics right now.

Boom not a big star on the road? One of these days he's going to win Paris-Roubaix. Styby did well on the road in 2012. We both like 'cross more than road, but it's hard to see why they would come back.

The Dutch have returned to super-power status in 'cross with this World's. I'd worry if I were leading the Belgian development program.

For those not in the U.S., most of the enthusiasm for 'cross happens outside of USA Cycling/UCI sanctioning. The biggest 'cross races with a large base of spectators do not have USA Cycling sanctioning.
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Old 02-04-13, 18:23
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OK for Boom.

Stybar does well on the road but I think he'd rather be a champion in cyclocross than a second-tier roadie. Probably/Hopefully he'll come back full time in 2 or 3 years when he realizes that he is a better crosser than roadie.

Besides, as I've shown for two seasons, the best crossers are always racing on the road in summer, (and not just 1.2 races).

Chainel has regularly raced a rather complete winter cross season + classics.

I remember that a few years ago, Gadret tried to be a full time roadie, dropping cyclocross, and he quickly came back. Same for Franzoi.
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Old 02-04-13, 20:24
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Organizers say almost 10,000 at the race Saturday..... judging by the lines at the beer tent that seems right
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