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Old 02-04-13, 15:49
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Track cyclists are as likely to dope as are track and field athletes.

Did we discuss elsewhere in the forum that the T/E ratio (limit) for the Olympics is 4/1?

Any power athlete would be unlikely to want to be anywhere the 1/1 normal 'average'.

So I guy could easily dope and be err...clean (within the rules).



You forgot the 'sarcasm' smilie.
oh then please enlighten me with all the marathon and thriathlon athletes being caught on doping in the past.

and the comparison between track cycling and track and field is pathetic
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Old 02-04-13, 17:50
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no it doesn;t. it's very much to do with "erfelijkheid" my dad has natural hematocrite of over 50 and my uncles as well and me as well.

it's very rare, but has nothing to do with mutant genes.


Sorry you will have to explain what "erkelijkheid" is because I have not heard of this. Obviously foreign language.

I once saw a documentary about high naturally occuring haemo levels in cc skiers, and I am pretty sure they said it runs in families, usually in villages where families have lived for hundreds of years, which by deduction means it has a genetic component.

We agree on one thing, it is very rare.

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Old 02-04-13, 18:17
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and the comparison between track cycling and track and field is pathetic
..and when you say pathetic you mean physiologically identical?
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Old 02-04-13, 18:52
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ok, my bad then.

in my memory never has a track rider been caught on doping. I think it is very clean. steroid use is the easiest to detect anyway.
What about Tammi? US female track rider? You can find her pic in the 1st pages of babes on bikes, and a sad sight it is, too.
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Sorry you will have to explain what "erkelijkheid" is because I have not heard of this. Obviously foreign language.

I once saw a documentary about high naturally occuring heamo levels in cc skiers, and I am pretty sure they said it runs in families, usually in villages where families have lived for hundreds of years, which by deduction means it has a genetic component.

We agree on one thing, it is very rare.
hereditary

Must be Japanese/Columbian slang.
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no it doesn;t. it's very much to do with "erfelijkheid" my dad has natural hematocrite of over 50 and my uncles as well and me as well.

it's very rare, but has nothing to do with mutant genes.
kid denies XYZ attribute is genetic.

kid provides evidence of genetic XYZ attribute inheritance being passed down from generation to generation.

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Sorry you will have to explain what "erkelijkheid" is because I have not heard of this. Obviously foreign language.

I once saw a documentary about high naturally occuring heamo levels in cc skiers, and I am pretty sure they said it runs in families, usually in villages where families have lived for hundreds of years, which by deduction means it has a genetic component.

We agree on one thing, it is very rare.
I mean genetics yes. but you pass it on in family. that's what "erfelijkheid" means. also danny nelissen had this. I know he recently admitted to doping, but the reason he won wc in ecuador was because he had hematocrite like the locals and in his case was also family thing

also it isn't rare per se. in himayalay and andes this is more common where for thousands of years people have lived in altitudes of 4000+ metres. number of colombian riders have and have had in the past documentation to clear them from high hematocrites and in skieeing I think the border is even 52%

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..and when you say pathetic you mean physiologically identical?
do you know how much doping costs? most track cyclists make minimum wages
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do you know how much doping costs? most track cyclists make minimum wages
In Pro Cycling Manager or in real life?
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In Pro Cycling Manager or in real life?
The maximum wage would surprise you.
The only exceptions being the elite of the elite.
There are material perks via sponsorship, of course.
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