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Old 02-04-13, 04:16
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Shattered, incredibly sore throat, so happy for all my Ravens friends around Balmer. Good morning, all.

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Final theme/thought for this edition of the Super Bowl:

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What a mess in the end. I mean the non-calls.
And where are the good old blow-outs? I am not convinced that SB-Defenses can´t hold a big lead for ten straight years. It´s very dubious. Very.

I think i´ll do the next season as this one: Skip the regular season, and bet the underdogs in the playoffs. The path to winning for two years now since i am doing this. It´s easy money.
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Old 02-04-13, 13:46
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What a mess in the end. I mean the non-calls.
And where are the good old blow-outs? I am not convinced that SB-Defenses canīt hold a big lead for ten straight years. Itīs very dubious. Very.

I think iīll do the next season as this one: Skip the regular season, and bet the underdogs in the playoffs. The path to winning for two years now since i am doing this. Itīs easy money.
I know you mean the non-PI calls against Smith defending Crabtree. Those will not be settled by any discussion here or anywhere. But we can take the edge off a bit. First, been there done that... I mean I've seen my team on the bad end of SB officiating, as have other teams. So for the SF fans, I can empathize. Second, there are a few officials who might call PI, but I think most would not for several reasons. The holding started inside the 5 yard allowed area, but continued beyond the 5 yards. After that, here's what I think happened: some official had his hand on the flag but stuffed it back in his pocket after seeing Crabtree give a push off on Smith's helmet. I don't have a link, but look at the replay in slow motion. At normal speed, I was thinking 'Why did Smith fall down?' It was a shove to Smith's helmet by Crabtree that caused Smith to go down. That shove may have resulted in the non-call on that final play. That shove was either incidental or out of frustration, but in the end they call them both (the grab by Smith and the shove by Crab) incidental.

As for SB defences, I will comment only on this game. I cannot stress enough how important the DLinemen are to the linebackers. DLinemen that get blown back 2 or 3 yards cut off the paths of the LBs to the ball. But DLineman who are able to hold gaps creates space for the LBs to flow to the ball. BAL lost Ngata to injury during the game. Up to that point, the BAL D was able to stop the SF running game. But after Ngata was lost SFs running game got going, which took pressure off Kaep and helped the SF passing game. Then fatigue began to set in on the BAL defense. So that is why I think the BAL defense could not hold the lead. I would not call that dubious. But it is the way it goes sometimes.
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Old 02-04-13, 15:41
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Finally around to giving comments. I was at a huge party last night watching.

I have to agree with on@ar@my on the last call. I don't think I would have thrown a flag. It's a tough call for the 49ers to eat, but to me, with the mostly hands-off way the officials had been calling the game, it was the consistent call to (not) make. To me, the bigger question is with three downs that close to the end zone, why did the 49ers throw three traditional passes like that? I would have run Gore off a spread option on 3rd down. Ngata was out, and Gore had been moving through the line a lot. Even if he doesn't get in, he's likely to get to the 2 or 1 yard line, giving them more options. And no effort was made to read option or run Kaepernick. Just one roll out (to the short side of the field).

As to the game, I'm not 100% sure the better team won; but the most efficient and consistent team team won. The Ravens made very few mistakes, if any. Very few penalties. When they got going on drives they got into the end zone. They couldn't stop the Niners all night, but did when they had to. And they had a few balls bounce their way, and a few dropped balls and small mistakes by SF. That was the difference. And in the end the Ravens deserved to win because of that. And maybe that does make them the better team.

It's going to be a long flight home for the 49ers, with a bitter pill to swallow, but they have to know they have a lot of potential in the future, and accept they could have won the game and learn from it.

Happy for Joe Flacco. I knew he had it in him, and he deserved that MVP award.

I thought Beyonce was hot and that whole half-time show was great. Agree also on Alicia Keys. Beautiful in every way.

As to next season, I would be surprised if the Ravens come close to repeating. They may be one of those SB winners who don't make the playoffs. But they are well coached, obviously. The 49ers, if they can overcome this, have to like their chances in the future. The biggest NFC threat they may have though is in their own division, where an equally young, deep and tough Seattle team is on the rise.

So, that's all I have for now. This year's combine, pro-day and draft is going to be one of the weakest in years, and generate nowhere near the excitement as last season, but I'll be here to write about it anyway. The off-season trades, and signings should help keep the conversation going, if only a little bit. Realistically, the spring classics through the Tour are cycling. But the rest of the year is football to me.
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I know you mean the non-PI calls against Smith defending Crabtree. Those will not be settled by any discussion here or anywhere. But we can take the edge off a bit. First, been there done that... I mean I've seen my team on the bad end of SB officiating, as have other teams. So for the SF fans, I can empathize. Second, there are a few officials who might call PI, but I think most would not for several reasons. The holding started inside the 5 yard allowed area, but continued beyond the 5 yards. After that, here's what I think happened: some official had his hand on the flag but stuffed it back in his pocket after seeing Crabtree give a push off on Smith's helmet. I don't have a link, but look at the replay in slow motion. At normal speed, I was thinking 'Why did Smith fall down?' It was a shove to Smith's helmet by Crabtree that caused Smith to go down. That shove may have resulted in the non-call on that final play. That shove was either incidental or out of frustration, but in the end they call them both (the grab by Smith and the shove by Crab) incidental.

As for SB defences, I will comment only on this game. I cannot stress enough how important the DLinemen are to the linebackers. DLinemen that get blown back 2 or 3 yards cut off the paths of the LBs to the ball. But DLineman who are able to hold gaps creates space for the LBs to flow to the ball. BAL lost Ngata to injury during the game. Up to that point, the BAL D was able to stop the SF running game. But after Ngata was lost SFs running game got going, which took pressure off Kaep and helped the SF passing game. Then fatigue began to set in on the BAL defense. So that is why I think the BAL defense could not hold the lead. I would not call that dubious. But it is the way it goes sometimes.
Speaking as a Seattle fan who had to watch a Super Bowl given to Pittsburgh these calls weren't as bad as recent games. The possible PI call against Smith was visible from a video angle the Official's couldn't see. Tough but how it worked out.
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Old 02-04-13, 21:35
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No, this game's no call was nothing like Superbowl XL between Pitt-Sea. Keep in mind that a few years after that game, Bill Levey, the head referee, and his team admitted they affected the outcome of the game with their poor officiating on that day.

"It was a tough thing for me. I kicked two calls in the fourth quarter and I impacted the game, and as an official you never want to do that. It left me with a lot of sleepless nights, and I think about it constantly. I'll go to my grave wishing that I'd been better."

I'd also argue the calls in XLIII (Steelers-Cardinals) were considerably worse than this year.

This year had a couple of questionable no calls. But the referees were consistent and did not affect the outcome of the game. SF fans may argue - and remember I was cheering for the Niners - but there really is no controversy as I see it.
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Speaking as a Niner fan, I won't complain about no holding call on Crabtree, because the Niners got away with something very similar against Atlanta, when Bowman broke up the pass to Roddy White on the five yard line. That incomplete pass ended the Falcons' season about as certainly as the incomplete pass to Crabtree. Also, judging where the pass ended up, even if Crabtree had not been held up, it would have been a tough chance, catching it and staying in bounds.

I agree with Alpe that they probably should have tried at least one running play. Or at least throw the ball to someone besides Crab, who obviously is going to be well covered. I mean, all three of those incomplete passes were thrown to him. And as Alpe said, even if a run doesn't get into the EZ, you get closer, which makes it a little easier for the next play.

You can find lots of key mistakes and questionable calls that cost the Niners, but in the end I think it came down to Justin Smith. The defense was never the same after he was injured, even when he came back. They gave up uncharacteristically huge totals of yards and points in the first half of each one of their postseason games. Much has been written about how surprisingly vulnerable the secondary was, but a healthy Justin Smith means the other Smith gets more pressure on the QB-as onthree said about Ngata. One of the downsides of a deep passing game, that was so important to the Ravens, is that the QB is more vulnerable to sacks. There were a couple of times when Flacco was back there all day, running away from pass rushers. That should not happen.

The defense did manage to play better in the second half each time, allowing the offense to bail them out, but against the Ravens it finally caught up to them, helped a lot, of course, by that kickoff return. When a team known for its defense, with half the players on that side of the ball in the Pro Bowl, puts up nearly 5OO yards of offense and thirty points, they're supposed to win.

Kaepernick is disappointed, but he shouldn't be. He had a rocky first half, but for the most part played really well, for the third postseason game in a row. Even in his SB years, Montana didn't always play consistently well in the postseason, e.g., 5 picks in two NFC playoff games en route to the Miami blowout. And when Joe played poorly, the defense often bailed him out. In all three of the postseason games, Kaepernick was faced with the pressure of having to put up a lot of points on the board to win. He did it twice, and came very close the third time. Great future for him.

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So much about "Defense wins championships"... Yet another year with 60+ points scored in the SB, defenses unable to hold leads, finally going into desperation mood: BAL big blitzing and praying that it works (which did with a little help from the refs); should be called the "Defense-hail-mary".

Anyway, one more year that a "running QB" couldn´t prevail Merckx. And also another year where a 9/10-Team wins the SB.

But to be honest, at least BAL played championship ball in the playoffs, not like the NYG depending on luck only.

Looking forward next playoffs. My early pick is Cleveland Browns (after going 9-7) beating the 10-6 SL Rams in the SB by a score of 37-34.

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So, that's all I have for now. This year's combine, pro-day and draft is going to be one of the weakest in years, and generate nowhere near the excitement as last season, but I'll be here to write about it anyway. The off-season trades, and signings should help keep the conversation going, if only a little bit. Realistically, the spring classics through the Tour are cycling. But the rest of the year is football to me.
This year's draft will be weak at QB and RB, though there are a few bright spots. But nothing like 2012. This should make veterans like Alex Smith and Matt Flynn more highly sought after. WR does not have a lot of marquee players, but there are a few gems there, plus WR is deep... meaning teams could pick up a good WR in later rounds. Other than that the other positions look like:
- OL: good at G and T, weak at C
- TE: couple nice prospects there
- DE: loaded with talent
- DT: just about as loaded as DE
- LB: a few potential standouts, not as loaded as DL tho
- DB: kind of like WR... not many elites like the Tide's Milliner, but plenty of good talent

Anyway, this is definately not the year for most teams to be looking to draft a QB or RB, unless to improve depth.


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Kaepernick is disappointed, but he shouldn't be...
Agree, he should not be down on himself. Kaep played pretty well overall. He is definately one of those QBs who can lead a team to a SB victory. Disappointment is understandable though. NFC West is going to be very tough & interesting for the next decade. Including the Rams, who are on the rise.
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