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Old 02-11-13, 21:40
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ion izagirre is an amazing downhiller, so I wouldn't know if that was bad by nieve. I never saw him suck in any downhil from what I've seen
I know it was mainly because Garzelli got moto-paced, but Nieve did lose quite some time in the descents in the stage to Gardeccia.
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I know it was mainly because Garzelli got moto-paced, but Nieve did lose quite some time in the descents in the stage to Gardeccia.
by "some" do you mean a total of 6 seconds on the fedaia descent while garzeli was motor paced?
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by "some" do you mean a total of 6 seconds on the fedaia descent while garzeli was motor paced?
I remember it as more

All I remember was that Nieve took massive time uphill, yet Garzelli still managed to keep him behind for very long...

EDIT: Do you know how much it was on the Giau descent?
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I know it was mainly because Garzelli got moto-paced, but Nieve did lose quite some time in the descents in the stage to Gardeccia.
I don't remember that at all
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by "some" do you mean a total of 6 seconds on the fedaia descent while garzeli was motor paced?
ah that explains it. in my db nieve is "above" average downhiller and I never noticed him being bad at it anywhere. that's why I wondered
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Re checked the stage.

top of the giau garzeli had 45 secs on nieve and at the bottom he had 1.05 min to the "chasing group" which i am not sure if it was nieve or people behind him, but let's assume it was nieve.

at the top of the fedaia garzelli had 39 on nieve and at the bottom the he only had 35 even after being motorpaced on the false flat at the top of the fedaia.

so saying nieve "is probably the worst" is complete BS.

if anything the fact that we never saw him crashing on any race, even at GT's where he gets very little support on the flat is a gigantic clue that he can't be all that bad.
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Its often the best descenders that crash because they are the ones who take risks every corner. the bad ones are bad because they play it safe.
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