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It wasn't, just watched it back. Even Botero, Aerts, Gesink et all came close to rejoin. It was astonishing to see back than but it is not like baby Schleck, Rebellin an Sammy are the big tempo men.

If Cancellara was Luigi, where did he go to after Fuentes got popped?
Back to Italy maybe? Where did the other CSC riders go to?

Ferrari seems to have been available then as his exclusive deal with Armstrong was over.

Pepe Marti/Del Moral and others were floating around.
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Back to Italy maybe? Where did the other CSC riders go to?

Ferrari seems to have been available then as his exclusive deal with Armstrong was over.

Pepe Marti/Del Moral and others were floating around.
It looks like Riis quickly found another doctor who later on worked with Sastre, the Schlecks and Contador, but it's obviously not Ferrari and the team Marti-Celaya-Del Moral.
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Back to Italy maybe? Where did the other CSC riders go to?

Ferrari seems to have been available then as his exclusive deal with Armstrong was over.

Pepe Marti/Del Moral and others were floating around.
We kinda know Thomas Dekker went to Human Plasma, also a Cecchini trainee. Rasmussen too, former Bjarne man of course, but too little for Cecchini to train with to my believes.

I do not think your CERA way is correct. Maybe it is and the sport of cycling is even a bigger farce then we know.
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2008 was quite the season for Luigi

1st Olympic Time Trial Champion
1st National Time Trial Championships
1st Overall Tirreno–Adriatico

1st Stage 5

1st Milan – San Remo
1st Monte Paschi Eroica
Tour de Suisse

1st Stages 7 & 9
1st Points classification

1st Prologue Tour of California
1st Prologue Tour of Luxembourg
1st Stage 20 (ITT) Tour de France
2nd Olympic Road Race
2nd Paris-Roubaix
That is a good year. Haven't seen a year that successful since... by any rider.
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Except Contador in the same year
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That is a good year. Haven't seen a year that successful since... by any rider.

I dunno, it comes close to this -

1st Overall Tour de France

1st Stages 9 ITT & 19 ITT

1st Overall Paris–Nice

1st Points classification
1st Stage 8 ITT

1st Overall Tour de Romandie

1st Stages 1 & 5 ITT

1st Overall Critérium du Dauphiné

1st Stage 4 ITT

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1st Stage 5 ITT

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You guys are just haters.

Guess the power taps were within humanly possible.
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I'd be curious to get reactions from guys like Kittel or the Garmin clan, if Luigi wins anything big this year.
Will be interesting to see how consistent Vaughters is in calling out former Fuentes clients.
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Will be interesting to see how consistent Vaughters is in calling out former Fuentes clients.
Seriously? You're bringing up something that happened 5 years ago and which JV has already explained as "I was still rationalizing my own doping to an extent at that point and I was basically an ***"?
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Seriously? You're bringing up something that happened 5 years ago and which JV has already explained as "I was still rationalizing my own doping to an extent at that point and I was basically an ***"?
Lance also admitted to being a bully. should we forget about it now?

I don't think it's a coincidence that vaughters' increased posting-rate in the past coupla days coincided with the hamilton and trent stories. i could be wrong, but his presence here seems to correlate with all sorts of backtracking. he'll be pleased to see you buy it.

anyway, I'm not expecting any, but it would be nice to see some clean guys raise their voice this season, especially if ex-Fuentes customers win big races. Why did some fuentes customers pay the bill while others didn't. why is riis still there, etc.
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