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Old 02-12-13, 15:43
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I dunno, it comes close to this -

1st Overall Tour de France

1st Stages 9 ITT & 19 ITT

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1st Stage 8 ITT

1st Overall Tour de Romandie

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That is a good year. Although Lugi is a TT specialist. No one can come close to his doped up TT efforts.

Clean riders wouldn't stand a chance in beating him in the TT. Untouchable. Especially those skinny ones who have to climb also.
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Old 02-12-13, 16:09
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That is a good year. Although Lugi is a TT specialist. No one can come close to his doped up TT efforts.

Clean riders wouldn't stand a chance in beating him in the TT. Untouchable. Especially those skinny ones who have to climb also.
If Luigi is just a time trial specialcist that would ignore his classics performances
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That is a good year. Haven't seen a year that successful since... by any rider.
Gilbert in 2011?
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Gilbert in 2011?
Jose Gilbert had a tue for a year, not nice of you to bring that up.
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If Luigi is just a time trial specialcist that would ignore his classics performances
Thanks. No one should able to beat him. Especially skinny (clean) climbers.
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Old 02-12-13, 21:15
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So you provide us with two links neither of which have anything to do with the attack we were talking about.

As for your 'others tested positive so my boy must be clean' argument.

I have something for you.

heyy manner up !

I provided you with a vid from the event i do also remember the race i even watched it and i know that Cancellara raced alone through that tunnel on the motoway.

And i didn't say he didn't dope i said others were caught for CERA so it's unlikly he used CERA.

And just because i'm swiss he must be my boy.. exactly. Maybe i'm just someone who believes in miracles or at least i just think twice about things. and not assuming every win in 2008 must have CERA involved. And ah by the way how on earth you explain the low suspicious index of cancellara he got from the equipe ? 0 or 1 ?
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Old 02-12-13, 21:28
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Mrs John Murphy, with all respect, I consider prologues and ITTs doable for a talented rider in a micro-dosed environment. The other results are obvious, though. The Bejing road race pursuit was a joke.
It depends how you look at it. If you know there are times people in the leaders group just watch each other and stop working because the other should lead or hasn't worked as much as another... So no wonder riders can catch up.
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You really think Rebellin and Pfannberger were the only guys doping in that race?
no not really... ? But the first two i remembered..
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heyy manner up !

I provided you with a vid from the event i do also remember the race i even watched it and i know that Cancellara raced alone through that tunnel on the motoway.

And i didn't say he didn't dope i said others were caught for CERA so it's unlikly he used CERA.

And just because i'm swiss he must be my boy.. exactly. Maybe i'm just someone who believes in miracles or at least i just think twice about things. and not assuming every win in 2008 must have CERA involved. And ah by the way how on earth you explain the low suspicious index of cancellara he got from the equipe ? 0 or 1 ?
Aint no miracles in cycling. Just chemicals.

L'Equipe does not give a suspicious index as far as i know. got a link?

UCI published a list of suspicious index on a scale of 1-10. They was torn apart in here long ago.
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Aint no miracles in cycling. Just chemicals.

L'Equipe does not give a suspicious index as far as i know. got a link?

UCI published a list of suspicious index on a scale of 1-10. They was torn apart in here long ago.
Problem is that riders with doctors who know how to produce readings that dont get flagged up will be lower on the scale than they should be. Also, there are comments in Ashenden v UCI thread about how readings that were actually dodgy didnt make it to the expert analysis stage, suggesting that, at least in Armstrong's example, there are riders whose score should be higher.

I think there was some commentary as well on the 0-10 scale saying that some people kept on returning almost exactly the same values, prompting suspicion? Not sure what number they would have had?

IMHO most of the 0/1 riders were probably clean or at least cleaner than most in the 2008-10 period, but this does not mean that all were.
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