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Ferrari? Oh
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Ferrari's calculations have on several occasions been proven to be extremely exaggerated and inaccurate.
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lol don't listen to Ferrari he can't even measure the time and height change properly.
It's the only thing we have, if you don't agree with it I suggest that you offer a different calculation.
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No what I mean is don't go by what Ferrari himself says, his numbers may as well be made up. jens is much better at timing
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Power files.
Unfortunately Alberto doesn't make them public so calculations are all we have.
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No what I mean is don't go by what Ferrari himself says, his numbers may as well be made up. jens is much better at timing
So what does jens say about Etna?
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Unfortunately Alberto doesn't make them public so calculations are all we have.
Didn't Lemond orso make a calculation of his climbing on verbier?

I remember something like that.
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Didn't Lemond orso make a calculation of his climbing on verbier?

I remember something like that.
He calculated his VO2 max but it was most likely BS since 99.5 mL/kg/min would be the highest recorded VO2 max ever.
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He calculated his VO2 max but it was most likely BS since 99.5 mL/kg/min would be the highest recorded VO2 max ever.
I know some ski racers have been up to something like 95 (?) or so
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Can you elaborate, why?
If your way of reasoning coincides with Miburo's one and implies the 2011 Giro shape is impossible to beat BECAUSE the fact of reaching that shape drops all the riders automatically, we can not discuss this further. Then I agree because a shape dropping all rivals in any race (as a part of your logic) is unbeatable by default
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If your way of reasoning coincides with Miburo's one and implies the 2011 Giro shape is impossible to beat BECAUSE the fact of reaching that shape drops all the riders automatically, we can not discuss this further. Then I agree because a shape dropping all rivals in any race (as a part of your logic) is unbeatable by default
No need to get defensive. YOU made a claim that you thought Froome's form would be superior to Contador's come July (in an Alberto Contador discussion thread no less!) without any supporting reasoning. So why do you think Froome's top end form will be superior to Contador's? It is a fair question.
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No need to get defensive. YOU made a claim that you thought Froome's form would be superior to Contador's come July (in an Alberto Contador discussion thread no less!) without any supporting reasoning. So why do you think Froome's top end form will be superior to Contador's? It is a fair question.
I'm not defensive. What support reasoning do you expect from me? That is just the way I feel. You are free to feel differently. If we open the Tour poll today 50% (or a bit less) of posters will vote for Froome and what? Will you demand supporting reasonings from them and ask them wrong for lack of these reasonings?

Froome is a better time trialist and not worse climber. Though he is able to gain seconds in the mountains as well.
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