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View Poll Results: Do You Consider J.Rodriguez a Wheelsucker?
Yes 22 14.01%
No. 95 60.51%
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Old 02-20-13, 17:15
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I tend to think you have never seen such a one. No pun intended.
Pf. Ocean of them. Rujano Sestrieres, Di Luca Briancon, Contador Plateau de Beille, Sastre Alpe-d'Huez etc etc!
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Pf. Ocean of them. Rujano Sestrieres, Di Luca Briancon, Contador Plateau de Beille, Sastre Alpe-d'Huez etc etc!
So you consider Contador a big gun?
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So you consider Contador a big gun?
I see growing Froome's favoritism unsettles you a bit.
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Because JRod is a totally useless rider apart of sprinting it out uphill on the last 500m.
He can't ride alone at all. He's acomplete joke in the flat and even on mountains he needs other riders to set the pace. He whellsucks like 99,9999999% of his yearly kilomters. Once there is no wheel to suck he looks like a total bum
Hold on, we're discussing whether he's a wheelsucker, not whether he looks like a bum when he tries to ride solo. Stefano Pirazzi and Amets Txurruka can't ride on the flat and can't time trial to save their life, but are they wheelsuckers? The only people who don't spent 99,999999% of their annual kilometres in the bunch or in somebody's wheel are the likes of Cancellara who are towing other people to the finish line because nobody will let them suck their wheels, or the kind of people for whom the long range attack is their only stylistic choice for victory. Purito has reached the point where he's too dangerous to allow to attack early (and routes like the 2012 Vuelta, where he was leading most of the race and the route meant no gaps were possible until the last few kilometres on most stages since no domestiques had been adequately tired out before the final climb so everybody still had a bunch of helpers, don't help either), so his best option is to wait until they're inside his uphill-sprint range.
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Of course it is a gift, the boy can put on the watts for 500 mtrs to 3K.

Let us just say he is a 3K wheelsucker.

Why is a 50 metres wheelsucker bad and a 3K wheelsucker a great and trully gifted rider? I know of a wheelsucker who won last years Tour.
Cav is a truly gifted rider, and calling him a wheelsucker is kind of ignorant too (although it's still not wrong to be disappointed in the amount of races that enable him to win in the not-doing-any-work method, especially when those are races that theoretically decide who the best cyclist in the world is).

But Purito so totally is not a 500m to 3k wheelsucker. Yes, that's how his greatest triumphs were made, but because of that people seem to forget the times when it didn't work.

Take the aforementioned Val di Fassa stage. I refer you to the case of CyclingNews Live Timing vs. Giro d'Italia 2011 Stage 15.

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Garzelli approaches the top. By the way, there is a nice little financial reward for winning this climb.
15:49:27 CEST

Purito Rodriguez and a Movistar rider pull away slightly from the peloton.
15:50:00 CEST

Saxo Bank is getting perhaps a bit worried. They scurry to the head of the peloton.
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Not only the chase group is getting smaller. The peloton has shrunk dramatically -- maybe 30 riders now?
15:55:14 CEST

Garzelli looks to be riding carefully on hss way down.
15:56:18 CEST

Arroyo of Movistar is the one with Rodriguez. They have only a minimal lead over the peloton.
15:57:18 CEST

Contador isn't taking any chances. He is now riding in third place.

Rodriguez and Arroyo turn it up a notch, hoping to get away.
16:00:13 CEST

Contador couldn't stand it any more and moves up to join Arroyo and Rodriguez.
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40 km to go for Garzelli.

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Looks like about 20 riders in the Contador group. Arroyo is pulling away.
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Will Contador pull out another spectacular finish today? Or is he at his limit? We'll see.....
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A Katusha rider is the next to go.
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15 km for Garzelli.
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About 14 in the maglia rosa group.
17:15:53 CEST

Rodriguez attacks out of that group.
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Sheeps will always follow.
So rodriguez is a wheel sheep?
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So rodriguez is a wheel sheep?
I was talking about posters who cannot think for themselves, obviously.
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Hold on, we're discussing whether he's a wheelsucker, not whether he looks like a bum when he tries to ride solo. Stefano Pirazzi and Amets Txurruka can't ride on the flat and can't time trial to save their life, but are they wheelsuckers? The only people who don't spent 99,999999% of their annual kilometres in the bunch or in somebody's wheel are the likes of Cancellara who are towing other people to the finish line because nobody will let them suck their wheels, or the kind of people for whom the long range attack is their only stylistic choice for victory. Purito has reached the point where he's too dangerous to allow to attack early (and routes like the 2012 Vuelta, where he was leading most of the race and the route meant no gaps were possible until the last few kilometres on most stages since no domestiques had been adequately tired out before the final climb so everybody still had a bunch of helpers, don't help either), so his best option is to wait until they're inside his uphill-sprint range.

Cav is a truly gifted rider, and calling him a wheelsucker is kind of ignorant too (although it's still not wrong to be disappointed in the amount of races that enable him to win in the not-doing-any-work method, especially when those are races that theoretically decide who the best cyclist in the world is).

But Purito so totally is not a 500m to 3k wheelsucker. Yes, that's how his greatest triumphs were made, but because of that people seem to forget the times when it didn't work.

Take the aforementioned Val di Fassa stage. I refer you to the case of CyclingNews Live Timing vs. Giro d'Italia 2011 Stage 15.
Don't really see the need for any more posts in this thread after this one.
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I was talking about posters who cannot think for themselves, obviously.
The plural of sheep btw is sheep ,not sheeps.
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The plural of sheep btw is sheep ,not sheeps.
Correct, I was over stressing it so it'll be no doubt whatsoever.

Btw, I suggest you check punctuation rules.
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To me a wheelsucker is someone like Leipheimer that does it even though he has no chance winning a spint. JRod is just playing at his strenghts
Agree - or like Gerrans sucking Cancellara's wheel. Gerrans stood NO chance of winning if he didn't get a 100% pull by Canc. Still annoys me, even today. I haven't seen JR do anything that struck me this way.
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