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Old 02-20-13, 21:07
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If it's a regular climb around 7% it's not that steep and ok for Tony.


Crans Montana 2009 for example.
Similar climb in terms of length and gradient.
very good point. Tony FTW!!!

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panzerwagen will slaughter them on this rouleur climb
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Old 02-20-13, 21:09
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now seriously i'd like it to happen but it seems like tony will never take the risks to lose weight and improve his climbing. which is a bit sad cause it's doable
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Old 02-20-13, 21:12
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If it's a regular climb around 7% it's not that steep and ok for Tony.


Crans Montana 2009 for example.
Similar climb in terms of length and gradient.
The climb where he distanced Canc with 2 sec?
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now seriously i'd like it to happen but it seems like tony will never take the risks to lose weight and improve his climbing. which is a bit sad cause it's doable
Don't think so. In my opinion there's not really a way Tony loses weight.
It's not like he isn't super slim if he's in top shape. He simply is a "heavy legs" type of guy. His strength is derieved from his muscular legs. If he looses those muscleses, he'll lose all his strength.
Tony is 74 Kilos in shape. That's only 2 kilos more then last years Giro winner. Tonys weight isn't the problem. It's his muscular legs that need too much oxygen for multiple mountain stages.
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very good point. Tony FTW!!!

Crans-Montana
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Prati di Tivo
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panzerwagen will slaughter them on this rouleur climb
Hi Jens.

On your blog there is only posted times of climbs that have been raced recently, so I wonder if there is a place where all your other times are

Your blog (at least the one I know)
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Old 02-20-13, 21:22
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If it's a regular climb around 7% it's not that steep and ok for Tony.


Crans Montana 2009 for example.
Similar climb in terms of length and gradient.
You didn't give me a correct example.

I'm asking for climbs where he was equal with the likes of Contador. Because that's what you claim, that he's able to follow these guys.

Don't bring up a mountain stage of a stage race that canc won

Btw it's 7 km shorter and 1.5% less. You're trolling, you must be
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Old 02-20-13, 21:26
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Hi Jens.

On your blog there is only posted times of climbs that have been raced recently, so I wonder if there is a place where all your other times are

Your blog (at least the one I know)
no but i will post them in time. and only when they will race up that certain climb

and to be on topic, any idea on papy horner's fitness? him up in the pedals up prati di tivo was a pleasure to watch last year. beautiful style
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how is crans montana "similar" to prato di tivo when it's 7kms shorter so half the length of prato di tivo and 1.5% less steep in average?

you live in a very cool world BR
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how is crans montana "similar" to prato di tivo when it's 7kms shorter so half the length of prato di tivo and 1.5% less steep in average?

you live in a very cool world BR
There are generaly only a few types of climbs. (Exluding classic type hills)

Very long with modest gradients: ca 17km + with average gradient below 7,5%
Long with medium gradients: ca 12km + with up to 8,5 average gardients
Long and stee:. ca 6km + with more then 8,% average gradient
Short and steep. ca 6km max with more then 8,5% avarage.
Medium long with medium gradients: ca 7-15km with 5-7,5% gardients
Short with medium gradients: ca 7km max with 7,5gradient max
Short with ow gradients: ca 7km max wit 5% gardient max.
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There are generaly only a few types of climbs. (Exluding classic type hills)

Very long with modest gradients: ca 17km + with average gradient below 7,5%
Long with medium gradients: ca 12km + with up to 8,5 average gardients
Long and stee:. ca 6km + with more then 8,% average gradient
Short and steep. ca 6km max with more then 8,5% avarage.
Medium long with medium gradients: ca 7-15km with 5-7,5% gardients
Short with medium gradients: ca 7km max with 7,5gradient max
Short with ow gradients: ca 7km max wit 5% gardient max.
So they're the same LOL

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