Originally Posted by hrotha
Originally Posted by Krebs cycle
Whoa genius examlel there with Pereiro coz like that year wasn't a complete fluke.
try harder next time
He did try harder: Sastre.
And I would add: Hesjedal, Cobo, Scarponi, Nibali, Andy Schleck, Basso, I won't go on but that's just for the last 3 seasons.
And what isn't a complete fluke? We are in the EPO era of UCI selected winners.
Try harder? I didn't try hard at all.
Though at least I can spell. Perhaps you can put some effort into that.
You forgot about Sastre? Are you calling him a TT god?
Yet, he is the ONLY Tour winner in the last three decades that has nothing on him.
Cannot TT, and no obvious doping implications. He messes up everything.
Both Pereiro and Sastre are so recent and so obvious, that the statement about 'world class TTers' is just plain stupid.
And what about the chicken? Seriously, the dude was going to win the damn thing.
You think he is a TT god?
Going a bit further with the obvious recent examples, Schleckette pulled a Chicken in last year's tour by demonstrating his TT skill with a season-ending yard sale.
Add Frank and Andy to the 'not world class TTer' list.
Any 'student' of the Tour would recognize without effort that Anquetil laid down the modern strategy of kill the TT and hang in the mountains.
Poor Merckx was as deaf as Beethoven, and only heard the 'kill' part on his way to a symphony of wins.
Back to the clear exceptions noted above: Pereiro, Sastre.
Pereiro won by surprising everyone in a breakaway, and something of a miracle personal performance in the final TT on par with Floyd's miracle Stage 17. Once Floyd's Harley was exposed, Oscar got his deserved win.
Sastre won it in the mountains. For a change. Against the TT-disabled Schlecks.
When it comes to refuting the statement on needing to be a world class TTer, we could probably throw Pantani in as an earlier example of a climber's success. Ullrich was killing the TTs while Pantani rode away in the mountains.
For another example, is Giro winner Cunego a world class TTer?
The best TTer of the last decade has never factored as a Tour favorite.
Honestly, I still haven't tried hard at all as all of the above are so damn obvious 'exceptions'.