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Old 02-28-12, 11:54
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Here is Andy's list of victories as a professional in its entirety:

2005 Luxembourg ITT Championships
2006 Sachsen Tour Stage 3
2006 Sachsen Tour Stage 5
2007 Deutschland Tour Stage 2 (TTT)
2008 Tour de Pologne Stage 1 (TTT)
2009 Liège-Bastogne-Liège
2009 Tour de Luxembourg Stage 2
2009 Luxembourg Road Race Championships
2010 Luxembourg ITT Championships
2010 Tour de France Stage 8
2010 Tour de France Stage 17
*2010 Tour de France
2011 Tour de France Stage 18
King Cav makes Andy look look an amature - and a not very succesful one at that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Mark_Cavendish

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King Cav makes Andy look look an amature - and a not very succesful one at that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Mark_Cavendish

All hail king Cav!!
You're right, if you look at schlecks victory's, it seems he only cares about the nats and about tour stages.
Cav however, wins about 5 times the amount of tour stages schleck wins
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I left it out so it wasnt so obvious.

I watched the replay of the Grenoble TT and counted Shlek looked back 67 times to make sure no one was attacking him.


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It's good that he started after his brother, because otherwise he would've waited for him for sure
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King Cav makes Andy look look an amature - and a not very succesful one at that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Mark_Cavendish

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Yea, but Cavendish has got a lot more wins than Alberto Contador too (even taking into account the results taken away). Sprinters have more chances to win than any other type of rider, and Cav is the best at that, so of course he'd have a bigger win list.

Andy's win list is ridiculously small for a guy of his talent level, but comparing it to Cav's is unfair.
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Yea, but Cavendish has got a lot more wins than Alberto Contador too (even taking into account the results taken away). Sprinters have more chances to win than any other type of rider, and Cav is the best at that, so of course he'd have a bigger win list.

Andy's win list is ridiculously small for a guy of his talent level, but comparing it to Cav's is unfair.
I agree on your general point about palmares not being the be all and end all. My problem with Schleck is that he so rarely uses his undoubted talent to light up a race.

My principal objection, however, is the carping about such things as certain descents being too dangerous. Of course they are Andy - if you spend half your time riding a bike looking over your bloody shoulder....
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Don't know if this tweet from Greg Henderson should go in the appreciation or depreciation thread?

https://twitter.com/#!/Greghenderson...660096/photo/1

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I've seen amateurs with better positions than that. What a bonehead.
It's almost like his position has gotten worse in the off season.
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oh dear :S not looking good for andy, but as bad as he is I think he might be the only hope to stop the tour being one long time trial, which might be quite interesting... Lets hope andy gets back to his top mountaineering form and makes the race interesting :S
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I've seen amateurs with better positions than that. What a bonehead.
It's almost like his position has gotten worse in the off season.
A little bit harsh but I have to say you are right, a great shame he's missed the opportunity to correct this over the winter. Good comparison shots. He might as well be on his road bike. He's obviously got long arms in relation to his body and needs to have more reach and lower bars - in a similar way to the way Cadel has set up his TT bike. And yet on his Road bike Andys has a flipped stem to get his hoods lower. Lets hope Bruyneel has him TT'ing with the parachute effect so that he feels the benefit when he sits properly come July.
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Even if he HAS to ride like a wind scoop, someone could at least try to make him practice bringing his chin into his chest more to bring his head down. The top of his head stuck up like that is ridiculously unaero - also the Giro Selector seems to be a bit taller than other helmets, he might as well be wearing a top hat.

It's just another reason why I don't like him, he just can't be bothered unless it's a mountain stage of the tour. He should just not bother riding and go and get drunk until the Tour starts.
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