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Old 04-15-12, 02:56
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Only urine tests, and as far as I know, they only test for EPO in the UEFA Champions League games. In the Spanish League out of the 10 matches played, they only test in two of the games, two players in each. No EPO tests.

In the UEFA CH L they do some out of competition testing, but only from the last 32 until the teams are out of the competition. And still, teams can miss a test, by suspending a training session if they find out early enough. I know that UEFA officials were waithing for BArcelona players that never appear on the pitch, when they turned out for a expected training session. Barcelona or any team,are oblied to notify UEFA if a change of training schedule takes place, but failed to inform UEFA. Also other teams have done the same thing. So it seems that all is still very lax when it comes to testing in football.
How do you find out the testing schedules?
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Old 04-15-12, 09:23
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BTW, Xavi has never taking HGH....officially. It is something that you mentioned and it is wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if he has taken it though.
Xavi had been using HGH for recovery, according to some english reporter who later had to retract his statements or pay a huge fine.

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Yesterday evening, we posted a piece where we reported that Mr. Graham Hunter, a journalist with Sky Sports--among other things--casually mentioned that Barcelona, and Xavi in particular had used "growth hormone" to treat a chronic achilles injury. In this case, the devil is in the details: while Mr. Hunter did say "growth hormone," this was actually a misnomer and a mistake on his part; we took that statement and ran with it, which was inappropriate and unprofessional.
http://www.managingmadrid.com/2012/2...h-hormone-post


Another interesting read on the same issue:
http://jonathansachse.de/2012/graham...hstumshormone/

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Very few? None at all. There are no blood tests in football and most urine tests do not test for EPO. The only reason there are few positives in football is the players are not getting tested.
They do have blood tests, but they're not common, and as I said they get advance warning. In the case of Spain, for example, there's no blood tests as part of the national league antidoping program, but FIFA does blood tests every now and then. There was a pretty thorough report on antidoping in Spain published in Marca a while ago, it's either in this thread or in another football thread. I'll try to find it.

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http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpos...&postcount=112
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpos...&postcount=114

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Old 04-15-12, 14:16
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In the UEFA CH L they do some out of competition testing, but only from the last 32 until the teams are out of the competition. And still, teams can miss a test, by suspending a training session if they find out early enough. I know that UEFA officials were waithing for BArcelona players that never appear on the pitch, when they turned out for a expected training session. Barcelona or any team,are oblied to notify UEFA if a change of training schedule takes place, but failed to inform UEFA. Also other teams have done the same thing. So it seems that all is still very lax when it comes to testing in football.
Lol thanks for that, where did you hear it.


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They do have blood tests, but they're not common, and as I said they get advance warning. In the case of Spain, for example, there's no blood tests as part of the national league antidoping program, but FIFA does blood tests every now and then. There was a pretty thorough report on antidoping in Spain published in Marca a while ago, it's either in this thread or in another football thread. I'll try to find it.

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http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpos...&postcount=112
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpos...&postcount=114
Cheers hrotha. great info there.
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Old 04-15-12, 15:02
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How do you find out the testing schedules?
UEFA site and Spanish FA site.
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They do have blood tests, but they're not common, and as I said they get advance warning. In the case of Spain, for example, there's no blood tests as part of the national league antidoping program, but FIFA does blood tests every now and then. There was a pretty thorough report on antidoping in Spain published in Marca a while ago, it's either in this thread or in another football thread. I'll try to find it.

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http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpos...&postcount=112
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpos...&postcount=114

Could you provide a link, cause I have been on the UEFA site and they do only urine tests. FIFA? I doubt it, but it is the only chance.

EDIT. No need for it, FIFA did it for the last World Cup.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...g-testing-fifa

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Old 04-15-12, 15:09
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Xavi had been using HGH for recovery, according to some english reporter who later had to retract his statements or pay a huge fine.



http://www.managingmadrid.com/2012/2...h-hormone-post


Another interesting read on the same issue:
http://jonathansachse.de/2012/graham...hstumshormone/
It was this platelet-rich plasma treatment. Even the radio station had to retract from their inital statement.

Had not read your link. There it is clear they had made a mistake.

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Could you provide a link, cause I have been on the UEFA site and they do only urine tests. FIFA? I doubt it, but it is the only chance.

EDIT. No need for it, FIFA did it for the last World Cup.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...g-testing-fifa
the link is in the post he links.

http://www.youkioske.com/prensa-depo...-10-marzo-2011
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Old 04-15-12, 19:28
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MARCA only brought the doping issue about because Barcelona were leading in the league. Not interest whatsoever in finding out what was going on. A few days later a Spanish Radio station stated that Real Madrid wanted more serious tests because they were unhappy with the connections of Barcelona and Valencia with dubious doctors in the past.

This season Real Madrid are literally flying (as well as at the end of last season), but everything seems to be normal for the Spanish media.

This is the fastest ever srpint recorded on a football pitch, and that after 105 minutes of play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUavqPyFRnE

And this run took place on the 116 minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pu-o-DQzSU

If it is all down to physical training, nutrition and genetics, congratulations to the human race.

Football today seems as unreal as cycling has been in the last years, or tennis or any other sport for that matter.

I wonder why some athletic track events records still exist from as far back as the 80's and early 90's with the tremendous improvement in physical output we are witnessing in other sports.

Watch an 80's game in extra time and they all looked like walking zombies.

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