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Old 04-27-12, 16:25
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It doesn't but some seems like they are giving him a pass. So i ask in the interest of the cycling nation
Does it matter? Can we make judgements on the level of cleanliness in the sport based on one individual? Doping is a collective problem, one subject being clean (or dirty) doesn't tell us much about the broader picture, does it?

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It doesn't but some seems like they are giving him a pass. So i ask in the interest of the cycling nation
I guess given the history of cycling, even recent history, there are always folks willing to give a rider a pass based on "insert reasons here". Others think anyone who improves must be doping. However, some riders seem to improve on what are typically considered mutually exclusive fronts (time trialing and climbing and attacking and excellent recovery). Time and time again, there are strong "reasons" provided for this - more dedication, weight loss, better position, high cadence, but the rider still pops a postive. Herras and Contador come to mind, mainly because I enjoyed watching them race. How about Ras in 2007? Went from falling off his TT bike to passing a number of others.
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Does it matter? Can we make judgements on the level of cleanliness in the sport based on one individual? Doping is a collective problem, one subject being clean (or dirty) doesn't tell us much about the broader picture, does it?
True, but sometimes discussions arise about particular riders because they attract attention.
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Thanks for the link. I remember some of those quotes and I remember saying it was refreshing to hear a rider speak like that for a change. I also remember when he said that he always had his suspicions about Vino after his TT win in that 2007 Tour.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007...g.tourdefrance
Perhaps Wiggo decided if you cannot beat 'em, join 'em?
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What about his praise for lance though ?

I saw his 1 hour video from 2007, it was impressive, but ripping easy targets like vino Di luca etc is only half the battle (esp for an English rider) if 2 years later he is trying to be best friends with lance Armstrong who if i remember correctly is next to him on the cover of his book.
lance's first language is english therefore he didn't dope. simple logic is simple hitch
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Armstrong who if i remember correctly is next to him on the cover of his book.
Cheap tactics to sell a few more copies of a boring book
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Old 04-29-12, 20:25
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It doesn't but some seems like they are giving him a pass. So i ask in the interest of the cycling nation
you are a spineless w*nker who wouldnt have the balls to say it in person

thats not me you understand, its the latest tweet from @bradwiggins http://twitter.com/#!/bradwiggins/st...85370220494848
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you are a spineless w*nker who wouldnt have the balls to say it in person

thats not me you understand, its the latest tweet from @bradwiggins http://twitter.com/#!/bradwiggins/st...85370220494848
what do you think? you want me to say it to your face or wiggins? why dont you post his copy paste hi whole tweet? mofo. and this is what he says

@jackrobinson95 Just spinless ****ers who wouldn't have the balls to say it in person.

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what do you think? you want me to say it to your face or wiggins?
I think you're taking it a bit seriously. read the link its obviously not aimed directly at you.
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Old 04-29-12, 21:00
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I think you're taking it a bit seriously. read the link its obviously not aimed directly at you.
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