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Old 05-01-12, 23:37
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I dont file them because it will be quicker in road races, I file em cause I get the s--ts up stuffing around everytime I want to put the bike on the roof of the car when they are on. It usually breaks down that its raining, I have a gearbag full of junk and I have gloves on and I have to stuff around undoing the skewer four turns to be able to get the wheel out. Then I need to try and balance the bike with one hand on the roof while the other hand tries in vain to tighten the skewer nut (which is really a two handed job), before repeating the whole sorry process to get the thing off the roof again.

With the tabs off the process is no stress. Tabs on its a PITA.
I believe a friend had quick releases on the rack that opened far enough for the tabs. Might have been a Tule rack but the QR definitely opened much wider than the one on his wheels
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I believe a friend had quick releases on the rack that opened far enough for the tabs. Might have been a Tule rack but the QR definitely opened much wider than the one on his wheels
Yeah but I refuse to pay for something that I can make in the shed for about 10 bucks using one of the 50 old skewers that I have lying around. Much happier to spend 30 seconds with the dremel. I am not too worried about voiding anything on my caad4 dale
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I just rejoice that I was lucky enough that my bike came to me earlier than expected because it was accidentally made for a pro-rider that had already just received his bike. As such, I have a nice flat set of dropouts with no modifications required!

3 years and I am still not dead.
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The tabs are not a legal requirement in Australia but under UCI Rules it is illegal to modify the the frame (inc fork) in any way...

So leave them on and next time you get beaten at the local crit protest the guy who gave you the whip ar$e the commissar can't do anything else but exclude them! just make sure you own rig is over 6.8kg
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For those using a dremel just don't set it to mach 1, the slow speeds take care of it pretty quickly, even the carbon ones. I'm sure a guy from that other thread might use a grinder or hack saw which is the wrong tool for this job.

For those wanting to be within the legal realm just round them down to a small bump. When the time comes, hey I removed my wheel so many times it wore down, you'll be all within the legal warranty realm . With a little creativity you can come up with an angle to justify why they are not there anymore.
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If you file off carbon tabs, you will most likely expose some threads which could lead to the ingress of moisture and eventual delamination of the fork.
Better to seal the area with clear coat or as an alternative clear nail varnish.
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The tabs are not a legal requirement in Australia but under UCI Rules it is illegal to modify the the frame (inc fork) in any way...

So leave them on and next time you get beaten at the local crit protest the guy who gave you the whip ar$e the commissar can't do anything else but exclude them! just make sure you own rig is over 6.8kg
The EU is now mandating lawyer tabs on all new bikes used on public roads. The UCI is also enforcing this rule (and your countries cycling body or legislature) could also add this rule. http://www.cyclingsa.com/App_Resourc...LE00000956.pdf

Note also the 89 mm requirement for pedal/tire clearance - my bike just meets this requirement but I hear that some don't..

I read somewhere that manufacturers are designing QR skewers with longer throw to clear the lawyer tabs.

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Yes that is he document that is in the hands of our local commissars as well, hence my comments
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Being involved with the development of product standards I am wondering what the lawyer lip spec is? Some one posted a relevant point sorry I can't properly credit you but the suggestion was that fork tabs are likely developed with the quick release parameters defined to operate a certain throw distance. Maybe QR have a product standard too. The point is it might also be illegal to change the QR to a type with a greater cam range that might open wider than the fork tabs. Front wheel changes are going to change if fork tabs are legally required.
I just confirmed the newest bike in our garage was made in 2006 for the 2007 racing season it did not have tabs. All the other road bikes are older and only the Trek has tabs. I don't think they are legally required but might exist in the Product standard for the US? I think most are there for liability reasons. I have a caveat however. Only road bikes and maybe only racing road bikes should be free of these. I hate nanny regulations but as a safety feature for a mtb or cx bike I am on board for keeping them. My observations of the mechanical skills of a lot of people suggests that QR are actually difficult for some to understand but then again they are not safe with any tools or sharp objects
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Thanks for the advice guys. I ended up using a flat file as suggested on the alu tabs and it worked a treat. No more LTs. Happy cyclist
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