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Old 05-13-11, 03:07
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Off-topic alert-Those blue jackets are really nice.

Anyone have any information on what company makes them?

Who is the fellow rider on Contador's right? Which team was this?

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that is the current iteration of the Riis squad
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I think the top photo is too distorted due to the wide angle lens, but I agree with Tofino that the wee bald guy peeking over his right shoulder is the best evidence of doping! Seriously, those photos do look a little beyond the normal aging process but Hrotha is right that we can't read too much into a photo. Cue the Lulu chin shots!
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Very contrasting lighting in those shots, to me it just looks like he's got older and his face is leaner. Your body fat percentage can also change your looks dramatically, a rider is going to look different in March to the end of July. A change from 10% to 5% is going to make anyones bones stick out.
yeah true that thanks for you reality based post refreshing around here. anyways yeah hes doped old news. as for the picks looked at all i suggest others do as well no blatant changes to facial structure sorry. just angle shading and a leaner cyclist simple.
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First of all it's not entirely clear what the benefits would be for an athlete of ACs performance characteristics would be to take growth hormone (or clenbuterol for that matter).

Then there's the highly questionable idea that you would see any visible difference. Craniofacial structural changes can't possibly be judged by photography for the simple reason that soft tissue can change for all sorts of physiological reasons. I am not convinced that even in patients taking long term GH therapy that brow ridge growth is a feature. Generally it is the jaw and posterior base of the skull which grow. But all this information is from patients with GH deficiency.

Basically speculating on possible doping with GH on the basis of photos may be a bit of fun but that is as far as it goes.
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Dawgs! This thread is certainly worthy of at least a million hits!!! Let's keep this one going!! Woof, Woof!!
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First of all it's not entirely clear what the benefits would be for an athlete of ACs performance characteristics would be to take growth hormone (or clenbuterol for that matter).

Then there's the highly questionable idea that you would see any visible difference. Craniofacial structural changes can't possibly be judged by photography for the simple reason that soft tissue can change for all sorts of physiological reasons. I am not convinced that even in patients taking long term GH therapy that brow ridge growth is a feature. Generally it is the jaw and posterior base of the skull which grow. But all this information is from patients with GH deficiency.

Basically speculating on possible doping with GH on the basis of photos may be a bit of fun but that is as far as it goes.
everyone knows a cyclist's intrafacial white tissue and muscle atrophies over 20k mile seasons, especially a veteran after half a dozen pro seasons.

anecdotally, testo and hgh is a supercharged recovery dope combo. Chaser With a smidgen of igf1 and insulin, they are right to go.

Contador has developed a little cromagnon simian brow there, like Edge

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everyone knows the morphing physiognomy of Sebastian Chabal

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Who is the fellow rider on Contador's right? Which team was this?

That's Daniel Navarro next to him.
Riis is lurking there in the background.
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Contador has developed a little cromagnon simian brow there, like Edge
The only thing simian in this thread is the intellectual prowess of the credulous.
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