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View Poll Results: Will Tony Martin reach a Top Ten overall finish at this year's Tour de France
For Sure 32 9.28%
Maybe 81 23.48%
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Old 06-02-11, 14:26
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Well he outclimbed your boy van den Broeck a couple of times in 09 before he cracked cause of tiredness. No wonder he had to work for cav like 100km avery day
my boy VDB2? lol
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my boy VDB2? lol
his boy VDB?
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Old 06-02-11, 14:32
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the 2009 tour was the ideal race for something like that to happen. with this year route? he won't break the top 20 let alone the top 10

btw in the 2009 tour tony martin got out climbed by the great climber juan manuel garate. how about that for climbing potential?
Garate has a few top-10s in the Giro to his name.

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i expect him to drag his big body on this year's tour mountains just like wiggins in 09.
marco pinotti,peter velits,sivtsov all top ten in grand tours.htc won't fail.
I hope and believe that Velits will eventually take up the role of GC leader, after Tony Martin fails yet again in the mountains.

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Old 06-02-11, 14:44
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no no.

I said he was close, never said he would beat spartacus (pretty certain I didn't. I remember the discussion). Either provide quote or no egg on my face boy
I did say he was the clear best after canc. which he is.
I was pretty sure you said it Timmy, (i have a photographic memory, kind of), but no way i was going to go through 2 months of Eneco, Geelong, maybe even Vuelta threads looking for that post.

So i decided to try my luck and type it into google.

Sorry Timmy. Google proved cooperative.

To be fair i was wrong to say you were convinced (you were convinced however that Gilbert would win RR and please dont make me go dig up that)

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I dunno, I think Martin will give him a run for his money.
In fact I predict tony gets the stripes this year.
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Old 06-02-11, 14:45
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Garate has a few top-10s in the Giro to his name.


I hope and believe that Velits will eventually take up the role of GC leader, after Tony Martin fails yet again in the mountains.
well garate's performances did vanish after 2006 in terms of GT's top 10's when he got 7th at the giro raiding for QS. after that there is nothing to show. and before that he rode for saunier duval and lampre around the time cunego won the giro as much as i hate to say this kind of stuff it does seem very weird.

anyway i am with you on the velits one. he has much more potential in terms of GC then martin, much more as infinite times more GC potential then martin because you can't multiply 0 GC potential
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Old 06-02-11, 14:56
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the climbers will drop him of course so he must push his limits and survive.
just like in this photo:

Wiggins outclimbing the amazing Nibali
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Old 06-02-11, 15:07
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I was pretty sure you said it Timmy, (i have a photographic memory, kind of), but no way i was going to go through 2 months of Eneco, Geelong, maybe even Vuelta threads looking for that post.

So i decided to try my luck and type it into google.

Sorry Timmy. Google proved cooperative.

To be fair i was wrong to say you were convinced (you were convinced however that Gilbert would win RR and please dont make me go dig up that)

But here it is



haha dammit. jerk

but yeah I still expected Spartacus to win

I remember really wanting Gilbert to win. Thanks to pickle I like Gilbert less.
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Old 06-02-11, 15:37
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Love this thread.

"Bayerische Reiter" is profiling himself as the German equivalent of ACF, with the difference that his expectations of a certain rider are even less realistic than ACF's. If you want an additional example of this kind of fanaticism: cf. El Pistolet - Gilbert.

It is great to have this breed of passionate people on the forum, but sadly I really can't see Martin do good at the Tour this year. His immense time trialling abilities are undeniable, but that won't be enough for this years Tour. He will crack big time in the mountains and I will be very much surprised if he ends up placing higher than 15th.

Nevertheless I would love to see him rival Cance even more in time trials. That would make the discipline a lot more exciting.
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I hoped a few times Martin would beat Cancellara, and then it didn't happen. But I still think he is closest to Cancellara and can beat a top-form Cancellara within the forseable future.

As for the Tour, I'm doubtful, if he can limit the amount of bad days in the mountain or at least limit the damage better in the mountains then he could go into the top 10, definately. It's just that Martin has never showed 3 weeks of consistent racing in the mountains. So he'll have to DO it first.
But I think he can, as long as they don't force him to work too much.
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he'll be beating spartcaus in time trials next year.
2012/13 TT world champ.
I agree. Cancellara needs to be taken down a peg or two to deflate his evergrowing ego.
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