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I think Wiggins is making a mistake. Bonus seconds still would not have wiped out the TT gains. Maybe he is serious about helping Froome win the Tour like he said he would which I think Froome has earned.
Of course not. Did you read what he said? He's not even pretending that he wants to help Froome win the Tour. He wants to put him in his place AND beat the world's best GT specialists this time. Not gonna happen, though.
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Of course not. Did you read what he said? He's not even pretending that he wants to help Froome win the Tour. He wants to put him in his place AND beat the world's best GT specialists this time. Not gonna happen, though.
I think he is making a big mistake if he passes the Giro over for the Tour. I can understand wanting to defend his title but if the big boys are out in the mountains it will not end well.

However, it would sure make for an interesting race.
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Although I always thought the story about targeting Giro and supporting Froome in the Tour doesn't hold water, I think his latest decision (or however you want to call it) is related to preparation period as much as it's related to his ambitions.
Both, objective and subjective, reasons influenced his decision, I think.
Now, Sky has to define team hierarchy before the Tour. 'Cause if they enter the race with two leaders, waiting for development on the road to decide who'll be protected, they could end empty handed.
Froome should go to Giro. To confirm he's GT potential, capable of leading the team and to learn a bit more about racing tactics.
No way Wiggo will do Giro - Tour in Basso's 2010 style. He's defending champion and he can't come to the race with "what happens - happens" mindset. And he's not Italian to prioritize Giro over the Tour.
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I think he is making a big mistake if he passes the Giro over for the Tour. I can understand wanting to defend his title but if the big boys are out in the mountains it will not end well.

However, it would sure make for an interesting race.
I think it would be more interesting having Froome there as the 3rd climber rather than him 30" down the road towing Sir. Only fun would be if it kicks off between them!

Also want Wiggins in the Giro as it means Sky would take it by the horns instead of the 19 day [nothing] we had this year.

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He qualified what he said by adding that if Froome proves stronger, he will support him for the yellow jersey.

I think the key point is the mixed messages coming out as the GC contenders jostle for position within the team. Previously Brad was the undisputed leader for GT's. Things have got more complicated now.
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I can respect what Wiggins is saying here. He wants to prove that he is a legitimate GT contender and not the fluke folks are whispering about. He wants to see how he stacks up against the universally recognized best Grand Tour rider of this era. Not defending his title essentially gives truth to the whispers. He HAS to show up.
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Froome will go to the Giro.
Wiggles will go to the tour de france.
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Only fun would be if it kicks off between them!
That's what I meant. I just cannot see Froome riding for Wiggins in the Tour. And what if Contador goes on the mountains as he surely will? Would they really be able to slowly pull him back like Nibali? I doubt it.

If Froome still can TT as well as the last Tour then 'all' he needs to do is mark Contador.
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I think it would be more interesting having Froome there as the 3rd climber rather than him 30" down the road towing Sir. Only fun would be if it kicks off between them!

Also want Wiggins in the Giro as it means Sky would take it by the horns instead of the 19 day [nothing] we had this year.
Are you on crack? Sky at the giro would be the train neutralizing the stelvio, tre cime and especially galibier as wiggins takes 4 minutes in the tt. Who at the giro could fly away from the sky train? At least in the tour wed have Al and Andy and maybe gesink or quintana or pinot.

This way someone like henao or uran can have a go at the giro and we could see a good one.
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That's what I meant. I just cannot see Froome riding for Wiggins in the Tour. And what if Contador goes on the mountains as he surely will? Would they really be able to slowly pull him back like Nibali? I doubt it.

If Froome still can TT as well as the last Tour then 'all' he needs to do is mark Contador.
More over there are 1 or 2 mtfs this year. Alpe and i forget what else. Its a lot harder to bring climbers back.if they can leave it all on the climb that if they have 20k of flat and descent to get through.
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