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Old 12-13-12, 13:59
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That's what I meant. I just cannot see Froome riding for Wiggins in the Tour. And what if Contador goes on the mountains as he surely will? Would they really be able to slowly pull him back like Nibali? I doubt it.

If Froome still can TT as well as the last Tour then 'all' he needs to do is mark Contador.
More over there are 1 or 2 mtfs this year. Alpe and i forget what else. Its a lot harder to bring climbers back.if they can leave it all on the climb that if they have 20k of flat and descent to get through.
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More over there are 1 or 2 mtfs this year. Alpe and i forget what else. Its a lot harder to bring climbers back.if they can leave it all on the climb that if they have 20k of flat and descent to get through.
4 mtfs I thought
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Froome see's how Contador is already dressing himself in yellow in anticipation for July, how he rides with no helmet without fear, how he and his loyal second in command Kreuziger have grown thin, how he takes on the sprinters in a bunch sprint, and how Contador has given previews of what others will face in July in the form of Giro 2011 pictures....

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Old 12-13-12, 14:13
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4 mtfs I thought
indeed, A3D, ventoux, alpe and semmoz
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Sky at the giro would be the train neutralizing the stelvio
I don't know about that. The Stelvio is generally every man for himself. Not sure a train will help once you hit it.
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Old 12-13-12, 14:16
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I don't know about that. The Stelvio is generally every man for himself. Not sure a train will help once you hit it.
Stelvio is not that steep besides the last few km. A train will very much help you in the beginning.

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Old 12-13-12, 14:22
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I can respect what Wiggins is saying here. He wants to prove that he is a legitimate GT contender and not the fluke folks are whispering about. He wants to see how he stacks up against the universally recognized best Grand Tour rider of this era. Not defending his title essentially gives truth to the whispers. He HAS to show up.
If Wiggins has some brains he knows he has no chance to win against Contador at 100%, not even against Contador at 95%. I think not even one of us will give him more than 1% chance.

British newspapers (according to hitch) think he's the best GT rider of this moment.

Besides a lot of people are already bashing him for the Froome-stuff. That will only get worse.

Sky might risk in losing Froome whois the real future for Sky. So will Sky risk it to **** of Froome?

Giro is right now perfect. And he can use the excuse of trying to become a 'legend'. And beating Nibali is way easier than handling with Contador.

If Wiggins thinks having Froome in your team is stressful than what about Contador? You've never EVER done with this dude. If he's 10 seconds behind on the last stage I'm sure he'll attack on the champs-elysee.

Smart choice is obviously riding the giro.

Obviously I hope he goes for the tour. I don't think I need to explain why

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Old 12-13-12, 14:32
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Stelvio is not that steep besides the last few km. A train will very much help you in the beginning.

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Old 12-13-12, 15:19
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British newspapers (according to hitch) think he's the best GT rider of this moment.
Not entirely. The newspapers too, but when it comes to thinking Wiggins is king for good, its mainly what the fans say.

At the olympics i head numerous people expouse confidence that Wiggins will easily retain the tour next year. 1 group i was sitting next to on the train expressed their regret at not making it to Paris for his win but decided they would definately go for it next year as no one could challenge him.
Another group at box hill were trying to calculate how many years until the next non British winner because from what they saw at the Tour no one can challenge Froome or wiggins for a while

And on the newspaper message boards ive been laughed at for saying wiggins will struggle to beat Contador next year because Contador off drugs will be struggling to finish the race.

Some of those "journalists" who write major op ed pieces about cycling now despite only knowing about 1 sport - football (eg martin samuel, supposed "sports writer of the decade" who made a laughable comparison of Hinaults and Lances alpe d huez climbs saying that a non dopers limit should be beating Hinault by 3 minutes maximum - ergo anything under 45 minutes on alpe - is doping), some of these journalists will express confidence that Britain will now dominate the Tour de France and hence cycling, but i think the ones who actually know a little about cycling know not to put too much pressure on their friend and just celebrate Wiggins recent win.
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Old 12-13-12, 15:28
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If Wiggins has some brains he knows he has no chance to win against Contador at 100%, not even against Contador at 95%. I think not even one of us will give him more than 1% chance.
Wiggins, or any rider shouldn't base his participation in the Tour on the fact Contador is participating. The fact that he's the defending champion is reason enough to go for it. Froome, to avoid drama, should target the Giro/Vuelta and problem solved.
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Would be fun to see Cound putting Wiggins in his place..
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