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Old 12-13-12, 15:06
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More over there are 1 or 2 mtfs this year. Alpe and i forget what else. Its a lot harder to bring climbers back.if they can leave it all on the climb that if they have 20k of flat and descent to get through.
4 mtfs I thought
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Sky at the giro would be the train neutralizing the stelvio
I don't know about that. The Stelvio is generally every man for himself. Not sure a train will help once you hit it.
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I don't know about that. The Stelvio is generally every man for himself. Not sure a train will help once you hit it.
Stelvio is not that steep besides the last few km. A train will very much help you in the beginning.

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I can respect what Wiggins is saying here. He wants to prove that he is a legitimate GT contender and not the fluke folks are whispering about. He wants to see how he stacks up against the universally recognized best Grand Tour rider of this era. Not defending his title essentially gives truth to the whispers. He HAS to show up.
If Wiggins has some brains he knows he has no chance to win against Contador at 100%, not even against Contador at 95%. I think not even one of us will give him more than 1% chance.

British newspapers (according to hitch) think he's the best GT rider of this moment.

Besides a lot of people are already bashing him for the Froome-stuff. That will only get worse.

Sky might risk in losing Froome whois the real future for Sky. So will Sky risk it to **** of Froome?

Giro is right now perfect. And he can use the excuse of trying to become a 'legend'. And beating Nibali is way easier than handling with Contador.

If Wiggins thinks having Froome in your team is stressful than what about Contador? You've never EVER done with this dude. If he's 10 seconds behind on the last stage I'm sure he'll attack on the champs-elysee.

Smart choice is obviously riding the giro.

Obviously I hope he goes for the tour. I don't think I need to explain why

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Stelvio is not that steep besides the last few km. A train will very much help you in the beginning.

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British newspapers (according to hitch) think he's the best GT rider of this moment.
Not entirely. The newspapers too, but when it comes to thinking Wiggins is king for good, its mainly what the fans say.

At the olympics i head numerous people expouse confidence that Wiggins will easily retain the tour next year. 1 group i was sitting next to on the train expressed their regret at not making it to Paris for his win but decided they would definately go for it next year as no one could challenge him.
Another group at box hill were trying to calculate how many years until the next non British winner because from what they saw at the Tour no one can challenge Froome or wiggins for a while

And on the newspaper message boards ive been laughed at for saying wiggins will struggle to beat Contador next year because Contador off drugs will be struggling to finish the race.

Some of those "journalists" who write major op ed pieces about cycling now despite only knowing about 1 sport - football (eg martin samuel, supposed "sports writer of the decade" who made a laughable comparison of Hinaults and Lances alpe d huez climbs saying that a non dopers limit should be beating Hinault by 3 minutes maximum - ergo anything under 45 minutes on alpe - is doping), some of these journalists will express confidence that Britain will now dominate the Tour de France and hence cycling, but i think the ones who actually know a little about cycling know not to put too much pressure on their friend and just celebrate Wiggins recent win.
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If Wiggins has some brains he knows he has no chance to win against Contador at 100%, not even against Contador at 95%. I think not even one of us will give him more than 1% chance.
Wiggins, or any rider shouldn't base his participation in the Tour on the fact Contador is participating. The fact that he's the defending champion is reason enough to go for it. Froome, to avoid drama, should target the Giro/Vuelta and problem solved.
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Would be fun to see Cound putting Wiggins in his place..
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Not entirely. The newspapers too, but when it comes to thinking Wiggins is king for good, its mainly what the fans say.

At the olympics i head numerous people expouse confidence that Wiggins will easily retain the tour next year. 1 group i was sitting next to on the train expressed their regret at not making it to Paris for his win but decided they would definately go for it next year as no one could challenge him.
Another group at box hill were trying to calculate how many years until the next non British winner because from what they saw at the Tour no one can challenge Froome or wiggins for a while

And on the newspaper message boards ive been laughed at for saying wiggins will struggle to beat Contador next year because Contador off drugs will be struggling to finish the race.

Some of those "journalists" who write major op ed pieces about cycling now despite only knowing about 1 sport - football (eg martin samuel, supposed "sports writer of the decade" who made a laughable comparison of Hinaults and Lances alpe d huez climbs saying that a non dopers limit should be beating Hinault by 3 minutes maximum - ergo anything under 45 minutes on alpe - is doping), some of these journalists will express confidence that Britain will now dominate the Tour de France and hence cycling, but i think the ones who actually know a little about cycling know not to put too much pressure on their friend and just celebrate Wiggins recent win.
Wow hitch I didnt realize it is this bad
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