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Old 12-14-12, 02:24
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It's not my interpretation of his words at all. He is now saying he wants to win the Tour, Froome would have been the leader at the Tour but now that Wiggins is saying he wants to win it again that put Froomes schedule and preparation for the Tour in doubt. Froome wants to go into a GT in top form, and be leader of the team. And if Wiggins says he wants to win the Tour again, then Froome may not be given the leadership he wants.

I guess Froome when they call him back to help Wiggins will just have to pretend his radio was broken.



No, they won't be uniting against Wiggins. But they will attack each other, and Wiggins doesn't like it when someone changes the pace with an attack. Enough attacks and he will be put into difficulty, and lose time to the other guys that can handle the Giro climbs better then him.

Even if Wiggo is given the leadership at the tour, it doesnt mean that Froome will not prepare himself 100% for the tour. Tell me the name of someone who finished second, that didnt want a shot the following year?

And yes GT contenders who are climbing specialist will jump around in the Giro to make thing difficult for their rivals. And yes Wiggo will not respond to attacks and will instead ride his own pace. But thats not because he cant respond to those attacks, thats because hes riding with Rotor Q-Rings, or whatever his funny looking chainrings are called.
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Old 12-14-12, 02:59
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Even if Wiggo is given the leadership at the tour, it doesnt mean that Froome will not prepare himself 100% for the tour. Tell me the name of someone who finished second, that didnt want a shot the following year?

And yes GT contenders who are climbing specialist will jump around in the Giro to make thing difficult for their rivals. And yes Wiggo will not respond to attacks and will instead ride his own pace. But thats not because he cant respond to those attacks, thats because hes riding with Rotor Q-Rings, or whatever his funny looking chainrings are called.
Yes, Froome will prepare for whichever GT they send him to and try to be in form for it. But if Wiggins is given leadership over him then he won't be supported as much. As an example: this year Froome flatted on a stage (I forget which stage) and he lost something like 2:00 minutes. If Sky had sent some people back for him, he probably wouldn't have lost nearly as much time. But they didn't because they had to stay with the leader of the team, Wiggins. Froome wants to win the Tour and do so with the full support of the team.

I'd say it's more because he's not as good a climber as others then it is the gear he uses.
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Old 12-14-12, 05:48
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If Wiggins has some brains he knows he has no chance to win against Contador at 100%, not even against Contador at 95%. I think not even one of us will give him more than 1% chance.

British newspapers (according to hitch) think he's the best GT rider of this moment.

Besides a lot of people are already bashing him for the Froome-stuff. That will only get worse.

Sky might risk in losing Froome whois the real future for Sky. So will Sky risk it to **** of Froome?

Giro is right now perfect. And he can use the excuse of trying to become a 'legend'. And beating Nibali is way easier than handling with Contador.

If Wiggins thinks having Froome in your team is stressful than what about Contador? You've never EVER done with this dude. If he's 10 seconds behind on the last stage I'm sure he'll attack on the champs-elysee.

Smart choice is obviously riding the giro.

Obviously I hope he goes for the tour. I don't think I need to explain why
Wiggins should do the Giro I agree. What happened to his dream of winning all three Tours. Probably pressure from management and the sponsors have driven him back to defend the Tour. Giro suits him much better. Otherwise Tour could be interesting and messy with a potential Lemond/Hinault situation developing at Sky plus having to beat Contador. Can't see Froome waiting for Wiggins in the mountains anymore or doing a lot of work on the front of the Sky train.
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Old 12-14-12, 07:15
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How much work did he do last year anyway? 12/15 km ? And he had to let Wiggo take over twice, it was more like moral support (well not so much now that we know how Wiggo felt about his showboating) and in case of a mechanical. If he hadn't been there Wiggo would still have won easily. Froome has everything to prove and I'm not sure he has the brains to pull it off, his bitc*y GF certainly won't help.

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Old 12-14-12, 07:33
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Wiggins also has to prove he can be a teammate.
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Old 12-14-12, 07:44
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Yes, Froome will prepare for whichever GT they send him to and try to be in form for it. But if Wiggins is given leadership over him then he won't be supported as much. As an example: this year Froome flatted on a stage (I forget which stage) and he lost something like 2:00 minutes. If Sky had sent some people back for him, he probably wouldn't have lost nearly as much time. But they didn't because they had to stay with the leader of the team, Wiggins. Froome wants to win the Tour and do so with the full support of the team.
Stage 1 I think.
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And it was more like 1 minute.
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How much work did he do last year anyway? 12/15 km ? And he had to let Wiggo take over twice, it was more like moral support (well not so much now that we know how Wiggo felt about his showboating) and in case of a mechanical. If he hadn't been there Wiggo would still have won easily. Froome has everything to prove and I'm not sure he has the brains to pull it off, his bitc*y GF certainly won't help.
Racing brains I hope you mean, as Froome's one of the more intelligent members of the peloton which isn't exactly Mensa On Tour.
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Old 12-14-12, 08:07
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Actually I meant brains in general because if you look at last year (Showboating on Toussuire and Peyeragudes and ridiculous attack after being dragged back by Uran in the Vuelta) his "racing brains" are among the worst I've seen in a GT contender since...forever actually.

As for Wiggins having to prove he can be a teammate? Dunno...wasn't he a teammate long enough until 2009 and again in the second part of the Vuelta 2011 and that race (Algarve?) he helped Porte win...and in his sprint lead outs? Who's the last TDF winner who did stuff like that ? Anyway I think he showed what it takes to be allowed to lead for the rest of his career, no?

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and it was more like 1 minute.
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