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Old 08-30-11, 14:04
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Yes, just like you reconed Tiralongo will go to Saxo just because Contador threw him a bone.

Also Cancellara is on another level to Hincapie so any allusions to what Bruyneel might do in the hypothetical event that he gets there are a bit pointless.

And any rate there are better teams than Riis around.
I´ve been wrong before and I will be wrong again. But that is the great thing about Forums.

Better teams for Fab than Saxo who ?, I also don´t think BMC will sign him, but again I might be wrong about that too.

maybe we should make a list
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Old 08-30-11, 14:09
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So the merger is on apparently.... This team is going to be pretty ridiculous, although they will have some issues buying out contracts to get the roster down to 28. Going to be some bargain signings to be had for some teams out there after the roster cull takes place.
Hopefully for Riis and Saxo, who has been nearly invisible so far reg. transfer rumours. A potential HTC combo (Martin/Albasini/Rabon/Fairly/Siutsou) might be good though.

Reg. a Cancellara transfer back to Saxo, I don't see it happening (Although I'd love it). The way Canc behaved at the end of his contract and if the supposed disrespect from Riis (that's what Canc said) was true, there's no way the two of them will join forces again. Spartacus to Lotto-Ridley is a far more likely transfer to me.

This potential merger makes sense, but just like Garmin-Cervelo was supposed to be the dominant classics squad this season, but failed to prove it, hopefully RadioTrek's supposed dominant stage race team can't find the ultimate winning formula.
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Old 08-30-11, 14:12
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Sky, Garmin -but those might be a bit tight at the top

Lotto - solid team but lacking a big profile in the spring classics

Rabobank - Breschel won't like it but it will be the same for Nuyens

Vacansoleil, Liquigas.

Doesn't have to be Riis.
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Old 08-30-11, 14:18
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Sky, Garmin -but those might be a bit tight at the top

Lotto - solid team but lacking a big profile in the spring classics

Rabobank - Breschel won't like it but it will be the same for Nuyens

Vacansoleil, Liquigas.

Doesn't have to be Riis.
Doesn´t have to be Saxo of course not but about as good fit as the above options. IMO better they know each other and Riis knows how to get the best out of him.

Probably Greenedge is the better fit than those options you have given for him re having a strong spring classics team
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Old 08-30-11, 14:27
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Hopefully for Riis and Saxo, who has been nearly invisible so far reg. transfer rumours. A potential HTC combo (Martin/Albasini/Rabon/Fairly/Siutsou) might be good though.

Reg. a Cancellara transfer back to Saxo, I don't see it happening (Although I'd love it). The way Canc behaved at the end of his contract and if the supposed disrespect from Riis (that's what Canc said) was true, there's no way the two of them will join forces again. Spartacus to Lotto-Ridley is a far more likely transfer to me.

This potential merger makes sense, but just like Garmin-Cervelo was supposed to be the dominant classics squad this season, but failed to prove it, hopefully RadioTrek's supposed dominant stage race team can't find the ultimate winning formula.
Well, the Canc is under contract next year with Leopard, and by extension any Shack-Leopard merger team as well. At that point either he'll have to be bought out (which noone would do, why pay the Canc to ride somewhere else?) or he'll have to buy himself out (which is possible if BMC pay him f*ck you money).

In short, I expect the Canc to ride for Shack-Trek next year.
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So we have a potential team with Schleck brothers, with the core of Leopard and the 4 GC contenders of Radioshack, with the holywoodian manager Bruynell and Lance Armstrong as divine shadow behind all of them.

For what porpuse? to win a year a TdF? to make a dinasty winner of Tdf like Lance? or simply to make more money?

If they all join forces for the sacred goal of TdF, what about the rest of the races? Some people explain well the only-Tour culture of Johan, Andy and Lance.

How a people like french will see this "american business" in their holly race?

Com'n Andy you are not my favourite rider but don't sell your professional prestige.

Do you expect to be 11 month at "hollydays" to arrive France early on July each year with 0 Uci pro tour points alongside Johan, Lance and the superdomestiques and claiming you are the favourite in the middle of a huge marketing campaign?

And what about the "villain", the other key character of this movie, Alberto Contador? Lance worst enemy in the road, a rebel and a traitor for Johan and biggest rival of Andy. Will Andy fall in the trap of Johan and Lance. Has Lance want to protect his record of 7 TdF? Does Lance think Contador is a threat?


Many questions for me. My opinion is that this a war and a business of others and Andy don't have to get involved.

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I hate to say this, but look at Lance who won, what, 5 or 6 straight Sports Illustrated 'sportsman of the year' awards. That put him ahead of all other athletes in the US covering all sports.
Lance was awarded once, in 2002.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportsman_of_the_Year

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Doesn´t have to be Saxo of course not but about as good fit as the above options. IMO better they know each other and Riis knows how to get the best out of him.

Probably Greenedge is the better fit than those options you have given for him re having a strong spring classics team
Saxo is a no-go for sure: He had to "pay" his way out of his contract & wasn't that pleasant at all- I foresee Spartacus going to either BMC(if they still have the cash) or Omega Pharma-Quickstep......
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Old 08-30-11, 15:47
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I wonder if Becca knows what people in the sport think of Bruyneel?


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Anyone know what happened to the contracts of contracted (ugh I know) CTT riders that didn't join Garmin-Cervelo?
Were they all on expiring two-year contracts?

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