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Old 10-28-11, 20:14
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Default So if Ti frames have a such a magical ride quality, why use carbon forks?

Was directed over to Moots from cyclingnews for their RSL frameset.

Frame looks great (artisan like welds) and all that but I couldn't help but notice a carbon fork.

So if Ti provides the ultimate ride quality (like all Ti mfgs claim), why not use it for the fork too?

Or DOES carbon do something Ti can't?
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Easier to shape carbon into whatever aeroshapes you want would be one thing.
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Ti forks are very expensive to make and heavier than carbon fiber. It's the same reason why you don't see titanium drop handlebars. I'm sure there are some ti forks out there, but it is a purely economic reason why they are a rarity. Why pay more for something heavier which ultimately MIGHT provide marginal performance benefits? Just a thought.

edit: Titanium is not renowned for its stiffness, something paramount in a good fork design.

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Was directed over to Moots from cyclingnews for their RSL frameset.

Frame looks great (artisan like welds) and all that but I couldn't help but notice a carbon fork.

So if Ti provides the ultimate ride quality (like all Ti mfgs claim), why not use it for the fork too?

Or DOES carbon do something Ti can't?
It's light. Lighter than alloys. Consumers like carbon stuff.
Consumers at the Moots level take on the gram counting behavior for no reason I could ever comprehend.
Carbon forks makes their product fit better in the market.
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It's light. Lighter than alloys. Consumers like carbon stuff.
Consumers at the Moots level take on the gram counting behavior for no reason I could ever comprehend.
Carbon forks makes their product fit better in the market.
Nope. People who buy ti are not looking for the world's lightest bike.

Titanium is not very suitable for road forks because large diameter fork blades would be required to reduce flex.

Black Sheep makes a titanium rigid fork for MTBs. They also make a ti fork for CX. The flex gives a little cush.

EDIT: Found a pic of a Black Sheep road fork. It's beefalicious.


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Yeah. That's one of the issues. While a ti fork looks fine on a rigid MTB, it does not look very elegant on a road bike.

Also consider that a Moots seatpost costs $250 - $300. If they made a fork it would cost several times that.
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I'm glad I stuck around this forum long enough and rummaged through enough historical posts to decide that I didn't want to bother with a carbon bike. I think my original post here was regarding the quality of no name carbon on ebay. Since then I've done a complete 180. Zero interest in carbon frames (although there are a few beautiful ones out there, but not at bargain prices). I'm sure if I was racer or whatever it would (rightly) matter, but I ain't and it doesn't.

That ti fork is pretty fugly. like mentioned above, it looks too burly for the frame.
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Was directed over to Moots from cyclingnews for their RSL frameset.

Frame looks great (artisan like welds) and all that but I couldn't help but notice a carbon fork.

So if Ti provides the ultimate ride quality (like all Ti mfgs claim), why not use it for the fork too?

Or DOES carbon do something Ti can't?
To make a ti fork, the legs would have to be huge to be stiff enough to make it work. There are ti forks out there, fairly soft tho-

As for 'ride quality', subjective. I like my Moots and waterford(steel), didn't like my Calfee.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/titanium-bike-fork.html

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Nope. People who buy ti are not looking for the world's lightest bike.

Titanium is not very suitable for road forks because large diameter fork blades would be required to reduce flex.

Black Sheep makes a titanium rigid fork for MTBs. They also make a ti fork for CX. The flex gives a little cush.

EDIT: Found a pic of a Black Sheep road fork. It's beefalicious.

Road bike? More like Touring bike. Definitely not what the Q was about.
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