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Old 04-08-12, 22:02
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Gilbert's performances were a lot more ridiculous than QuickStep have been on the cobbles.

The top tier of cobbled riders/competition this year hasn't been great for the team that was the most dominant on paper anyway.

Cancellara bad luck in E3, injured in Roubaix/Ronde.
Flecha coming back from injury.
Hushovd in terrible form, never really had a chance today.
Ballan and Pozzato have been in good form.

Who's left after those two? Boom, Van Summeren, Paolini...? There were maybe three riders apart from Boonen starting today who wouldn't have been a shock winner and one of those was in his third race back from injury.
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Who's left after those two? Boom, Van Summeren, Paolini...? There were maybe three riders apart from Boonen starting today who wouldn't have been a shock winner and one of those was injured.
This. Apart from the solo, after Pozzato failed, there was no competition at all for Boonen. Boonen has already proven to be one of the best cobbles riders ever in the years without Ibarguren, so why would this victory prove anything? Look at the names who were chasing or riding for a top-10, those are NOT the strongest riders worldwide. The summit is very narrow in cobbles races, so if the competition is weak, you get something like this.

Moreover, if Gilbert form increases again (which should not be a miracle if the dental problems are true), the Ibarguren argument will fail.
If he is that good, why were there only 2 riders outstanding last year at OPL? Besides Vanendert and Gilbert, I saw nothing spectacular, on the contrary.
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50ks solo? ****ing ridiculous.
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Sky had 4 guys, but didn't use them that well. They each did long turns and then faded away, instead of actually trying to keep the pace up. Other strong riders were just sitting behind them not doing anything.
Exactly.
Apart from poor manpower useage by Sky, it's like everyone thought "Only Cancellara could do a long break, so no point chasing hard because Boonen is sure to fail."

I think it was significant that Boonen's lead increased only on the cobbled sections (or at least so it seemed to me), not on the smooth pavement, until he had about a minute.

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Now then, let me see: isn't this the same clinic that was absolutely certain that Chavanel did not and never would dope (after all, the French just DON'T); so where does that fit into this whole thread?!
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Exactly.
Apart from poor manpower useage by Sky, it's like everyone thought "Only Cancellara could do a long break, so no point chasing hard because Boonen is sure to fail."

I think it was significant that Boonen's lead increased only on the cobbled sections (or at least so it seemed to me), not on the smooth pavement, until he had about a minute.

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Now then, let me see: isn't this the same clinic that was absolutely certain that Chavanel did not and never would dope (after all, the French just DON'T); so where does that fit into this whole thread?!
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50ks solo? ****ing ridiculous.
Reminds me of Merckx, biggest fraud ever. Obviously had the 1st gen EPO before everyone else.

Also, ditto on Chavanel. Not sure how we can condemn the whole OMQS when the French champ is obviously not doping.
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If you're going to dope at least do it with some modesty!
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If you're going to dope at least do it with some modesty!
Why? If you're gonna dope, go big and kill everyone!
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Why? If you're gonna dope, go big and kill everyone!
yea, why ne satisfied by winning? go for the 50k solo tting kind of doping if yoou first are going to
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