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Old 04-06-12, 17:47
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Nonetheless, Kreuziger hasn't had the seasons that would be a step back so far, in terms of his GT perfomances at least. Yes, he lost his touch in TT partially, but the basis level is still very high. Hehe, how many guys out of the superelite are rated objectively then, if Nibali and Kreuziger are overrated?
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Old 04-06-12, 17:51
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Nonetheless, Kreuziger hasn't had the seasons that would be a step back so far, in terms of his GT perfomances at least. Yes, he lost his touch in TT partially, but the basis level is still very high. Hehe, how many guys out of the superelite are rated objectively then, if Nibali and Kreuziger are overrated?
I would say Kreuzigers pure talent is overrated, he has not worsened, but he hasn't exactly become better either over the last 3 years
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Vino better not fall out of favor with the Kazakhstan ruler or it's curtains for the vanity project.

They better fix Kascheckin or find some new talent fast or Vinokourov will have to do a Horner. Otherwise I don't see a reason why Kazakh companies would sponsor a team with local riders being helpers.
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Old 04-06-12, 17:59
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Vino better not fall out of favor with the Kazakhstan ruler or it's curtains for the vanity project.

They better fix Kascheckin or find some new talent fast or Vinokourov will have to do a Horner. Otherwise I don't see a reason why Kazakh companies would sponsor a team with local riders being helpers.
An overweight Kazakh with a waaay to high salary, and with a bad relationship with Vino?
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Old 04-06-12, 18:17
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An overweight Kazakh with a waaay to high salary, and with a bad relationship with Vino?
my last hope about kash will be le tour de france 2012.man, he looked so drained out of energies in the first races you could swear his name is andy schleck.just like a blind fanboy who won't accept the facts,i think kash will rise up in the month of july like an angel.if not,it's over.let him party in monte carlo and that's it.

vino-he will find the form in turkey,i'm absolutely sure.he's a god,in may he will take two stages in il giro and in july,he will attack a little bit.

brajkovic-i have no idea what can he do.probably nothing big again...

kiserlovski is the future though,great rider.
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Old 04-06-12, 18:31
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I like Maxim Iglinsky very much, he is no Vino, but he is quite good on all terrains. I also like Andrey Zeits. He can develop into beeing a good climber. As jens_attacks say's about Kash, he could do a top 10 in the tour. Simply because it's what motivates him, it's his objective.

Kiserlovski is a rising star that will only get better and better. I had high hopes for Brajkovic after the 06 Vuelta, but in my opinion even with a great team around him, he will not do a great tour. I dont think he can be at his best for 3 weeks.

Also have high hopes for Silin, he have been promising in the U23 races before. And he will devlop to be a good rider. I also have hopes for Nepomnyachshiy after the U23 in Mendrisio.

And last, Vino. He can snatch a stage in either the Tour or Giro. He just keeps getting better and better after the injury, hope he will do good in Turkey.

But. Astana is a interesting team that i will follow for many years to come.
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my last hope about kash will be le tour de france 2012.man, he looked so drained out of energies in the first races you could swear his name is andy schleck.just like a blind fanboy who won't accept the facts,i think kash will rise up in the month of july like an angel.if not,it's over.let him party in monte carlo and that's it.

vino-he will find the form in turkey,i'm absolutely sure.he's a god,in may he will take two stages in il giro and in july,he will attack a little bit.

brajkovic-i have no idea what can he do.probably nothing big again...

kiserlovski is the future though,great rider.
In July we will see Vino in yellow, I don not accept enything else. That man can NOT end his career without wearing yellow for atleast 1 day.
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Old 04-06-12, 18:38
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Zeits and Dyachenko are considered the most talented. I have a bit of faith in Zeits. He could become like the second Iglinskiy at least. I don't think the authorities will stop sponsoring it in the near future. Kazakhstan need some sport representation on the world stage. They've got only a little slice of hockey and CYCLING. In this respect, their enthusiasm is inexhaustible no matter who rides for them.

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Weren't people talking about Nibali to Astana like it were a done deal? There's the big leader.

Liquigas can just become the Sagan show
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Zeits and Dyachenko are considered the most talented. I have a bit of faith in Zeits. He could become like the second Iglinskiy at least. I don't think the authorities will stop sponsoring it in the near future. Kazakhstan need some sport representation on the world stage. They've got only a little slice of hockey and CYCLING. In this respect, their enthusiasm is inexhaustible no matter who rides for them.




(OK, so that was an unexpected result, and one that is regarded as pretty suspicious, but nonetheless)
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