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Old 05-21-12, 16:33
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Without bad luck, yeah he can win.
There is no Contador. Andy is worse than ever. Only Evans and Wiggins are the biggest problems then
It's an open Tour this year anyway. Vandenbroeck could win too. Nibali too...
Lol vdb and.nibali above sanchez and menchov.

Please explain to me under what logic can one dismiss the best climber around (Andy) like that bbut then say that jvdb can win the tour ?

Andy worse than ever. well he will peak for the tour no, regardless of how cap he was in races he doesn't care about
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the 'hype' is not based on ToC. It's a pretty logical assesment of his qualities past and present combined with the calculated increase in form between ToC and Tour de France.

Hype is saying he is a certainty for TDF podium or victory. Hyping up is saying he will win the TDF or will end on the podium.
Saying he could podium or win the TDF, given certain requirements are met (increase in form, not crashing), like I do, is not hyping.

Some people here totally lack understanding of the meaning of 'hyping'
He can podium or win TDF. But so can 7/8 other Tour contenders this year, like I said, it's more open this season.
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I like the respect Gesink has consistently shown the ToC. He comes here prepared to race, and is one of the few non-Americans to do so. I've been a fan since his stage win in San Jose a few years back, and to see him take the overall was a real pleasure.
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So DT you still think that atm nibali is better then gesink?

anyway it's awesome to see him back to his old self, hopefully he will manage to stay upright at the tour
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So DT you still think that atm nibali is better then gesink?

anyway it's awesome to see him back to his old self, hopefully he will manage to stay upright at the tour
Dont know if anyone can say Nibali is certainly better, rather he has showed more to suggest he may be the better rider.

Imo Gesink is very possibly the more talented rider... but he hasnt shown enough in the recent future to back that up.
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If you take both their careers up until Nibali's sudden vuelta win it never looked like Nibali would be better or become better. And the moment when Gesink became pro (2007) he did better in most times they met until 2010.

nibali is ofcourse 2 years older and 2 years longer professional, and a better bike handler. The last part explains 90% of the difference in results. Nibali doesn't fall, Nibali can make up time in descends when he is dropped (like Giro last year), and can put opponents under pressure before the final climb or when the finish is in a descend. And most of all, because Nibali doesn't fall he has rode and finished much more GT's than Gesink, a few times 2 a year, so Nibali has built up a lot more 'fond'.
It would be good if Gesink finished Tour and vuelta this year, just to catch up some of that 'damage'
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YAWN. Can boomcie and Pisti please stop being stupid. Thanks.
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Kudos to Gesink, tough couple of years and he's getting back to his best. Those doubting his talent don't know anything. If he stays on his bike he'll be at the pointy end of things, and unlike Andy he actually has worked on his TT, so it'd be interesting to see how things pan out betwee pure climbers, pure TT'ers and the in-betweeners.
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Anyone who is interested in missing the Dauphine and TdS should definitely continue the conversation about who said what on whatever other forum.

This advice is especially directed at Jansen en Janssen en Kapitein Haddock.

Back on topic or you'll be taking a long vacation.
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Anyone who is interested in missing the Dauphine and TdS should definitely continue the conversation about who said what on whatever other forum.

This advice is especially directed at Jansen en Janssen en Kapitein Haddock.

Back on topic or you'll be taking a long vacation.
Nice.

Has the Tour de Suisse route been announced already, seeing Gesink, Mollema & Kruijswijk will head there?
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