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Old 01-17-13, 17:00
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You're overrating Contador.
He needs to be at his very best to defend over 55,5k flat and straight tt against Wiggo in top form.
Also, Wiggo at his best won't lose hours on climbs.

We're in new era now. Era of Sky's "marginal gains" and Contador's reasonable time trials.
Does the giro 2011 count in the new era?

At that point the clinic-stuff already happened, so what changed since then?

Sky? Oh yeah, being on par with Nibali is a real feat, once again remember giro 2011?
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Does the giro 2011 count in the new era?

At that point the clinic-stuff already happened, so what changed since then?

Sky? Oh yeah, being on par with Nibali is a real feat, once again remember giro 2011?
You can forget the 2011 Giro and take a look at Vuelta 2012. Yes, he won it, but far from the fashion we've expected.
Contador has never raced against Wiggo and Sky when they're targeting a race. So, every conclusion is unfounded and pure wishful thinking.

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Era of Contador's reasonable tts has nothing to do with suspension. It started earlier... About when he realized he overdone it by beating Cancellara.
You can remind of latest World's tt too. That's, more or less, it.
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Contador at 90-95% is enough but how do you stay on that form exactly?
90-95% of Contador's end of 2012 Vuelta?
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You're overrating Contador.
He needs to be at his very best to defend over 55,5k flat and straight tt against Wiggo in top form.
Also, Wiggo at his best won't lose hours on climbs (not even if Contador is also at his best).
and Alberto won't lose hours in the tt. so we still know nothing. Alberto could lose 3-4 minutes in the tt and could win 5 minutes in the mountains. maybe.

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We're in new era now. Era of Sky's "marginal gains" and Contador's reasonable time trials.
did you see what happened with sky's "marginal gains" in la vuelta? and don't hit me with the - froome was in bad form argument, because Alberto wasn't great either. I'd say froome was at 90% and Alberto at 95%

and what is this new era you're talking about and when did it start? what about Alberto's time trials in il giro and le tour in 2011? were they "reasonable" or was it a different era?
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Miburo, do you percieve the reality in an adequate way?

I'm being serious.
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and Alberto won't lose hours in the tt. so we still know nothing. Alberto could lose 3-4 minutes in the tt and could win 5 minutes in the mountains. maybe.



did you see what happened with sky's "marginal gains" in la vuelta? and don't hit me with the - froome was in bad form argument, because Alberto wasn't great either. I'd say froome was at 90% and Alberto at 95%

and what is this new era you're talking about and when did it start? what about Alberto's time trials in il giro and le tour in 2011? were they "reasonable" or was it a different era?
All the answers you're searching for are here, my dear: http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpos...postcount=4629
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Apparently - IL GIRO has a picture of Alberto stating the He'll be consulting with the team management to see if he can "fit it" in his calender !!!!!

Poor Nibs & Wiggo if he decides to go ..... damn
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Miburo, do you percieve the reality in an adequate way?

I'm being serious.
You're being serious?

Nah
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You can forget the 2011 Giro and take a look at Vuelta 2012. Yes, he won it, but far from the fashion we've expected.
Contador has never raced against Wiggo and Sky when they're targeting a race. So, every conclusion is unfounded and pure wishful thinking.
why, because it doesn't suit your theory?

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Era of Contador's reasonable tts has nothing to do with suspension. It started earlier... About when he realized he overdone it by beating Cancellara.
You can remind of latest World's tt too. That's, more or less, it.
2010
1st, Stage 4 ( ITT ), Vuelta a Castilla y León
2nd, Stage 5 ( ITT ), Volta ao Algarve
2nd, Stage 3 ( ITT ), Criterium International
4th, Stage 1 ( ITT ), Paris-Nice

2011
1st, Stage 16 (ITT), Giro d’Italia
1st, Stage 3 (ITT), Vuelta a Murcia
1st, Stage 4 (ITT), Vuelta a Castilla y León
3rd, Stage 20 (ITT), Tour de France
3rd, Stage 21 (ITT), Giro d’Italia

2012
2nd Stage 11 (ITT) Vuelta a España

yea definitely some mediocre tt results
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You can forget the 2011 Giro and take a look at Vuelta 2012. Yes, he won it, but far from the fashion we've expected.
Contador has never raced against Wiggo and Sky when they're targeting a race. So, every conclusion is unfounded and pure wishful thinking.

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Era of Contador's reasonable tts has nothing to do with suspension. It started earlier... About when he realized he overdone it by beating Cancellara.
You can remind of latest World's tt too. That's, more or less, it.
Contador was at his possible best in the vuelta? I don't think i need to discuss this any further if you truly believe that
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