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Old 12-07-12, 22:10
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If it's true that he devoted several pages to his Diva moment response to Froome's momentary lapse that should have been easily attributed to his inexperience and youth, then he was better served simply leaving that admission out. Is his mental state so fragile that the slightest deviation from the team's plan had him considering pulling out of the race--all while leading the race and close to reaching his ultimate goal? Really doesn't reflect well on him at all.
And you believe he would contemplate pulling out of the race wearing yellow?
This is primarily about selling a bit of books at xmas and potentially getting a bit of character writeup before the Spoty award getting announced.

We are talking Sky here, not an explosives company.
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Old 12-08-12, 03:50
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The stupid thing is that Wiggins didn't need Froome, and even if Froome was riding for himself, probably wouldn't have beaten Wiggins.

Froome never jeopardised a Sky (Wiggins) Tour victory.

So to complain about something which was of no material consequence...

IMO if Wiggins was that fragile they should never have sent Froome to the Tour.
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Old 12-08-12, 17:53
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The stupid thing is that Wiggins didn't need Froome, and even if Froome was riding for himself, probably wouldn't have beaten Wiggins.

Froome never jeopardised a Sky (Wiggins) Tour victory.

So to complain about something which was of no material consequence...

IMO if Wiggins was that fragile they should never have sent Froome to the Tour.
I think the team were more worried about froome dragging Nibali or Evans up the road, who they saw as more of a threat.

Considering that Froome lost 1.40 on the firs stage which has to be put down to poor team support, then on fitness Froomey would have been the only close rival.

If the parcours had not had such long time trials it is hard to say who would have won.

The "was going to pull out" reveals a weakness in Brads character - he has a bit of "teenager" still in him.

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Old 02-06-13, 12:38
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"There will be plenty of opportunity for him to do so: Froome will start his 2013 season alongside Bradley Wiggins in the Tour of Oman (February 11-16), before heading to a team training camp currently scheduled to be held in Tenerife.

From there he will race Tirreno-Adriatico (March 6-12), Tour of Romandy (April 23-28) and the Critérium du Dauphiné (June 2-9)"
Strange calendar, isn't it?


From Oman to Tirreno there is one month, till Romandie 1 month and a half, other 1 1/2 month to Dauphine and then Tour de France.


There isn't a core of races within a short period of time where you can think, look this must be his first peak.


Does he had serious problems with recovery/endurance?

Last year he started late, at Dauphine he showed something for the first time.

Dauphine, Tour, Olympics, and the first week of Vuelta met good form.

Less than 3 months of peak, but he didn't collapse, he was 4th.
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if he's a force in tirreno and tour de france alone, i would be more than ok with that.
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Strange calendar, isn't it?


From Oman to Tirreno there is one month, till Romandie 1 month and a half, other 1 1/2 month to Dauphine and then Tour de France.


There isn't a core of races within a short period of time where you can think, look this must be his first peak.


Does he had serious problems with recovery/endurance?

Last year he started late, at Dauphine he showed something for the first time.

Dauphine, Tour, Olympics, and the first week of Vuelta met good form.

Less than 3 months of peak, but he didn't collapse, he was 4th.
Sky seems to be taking the approach of not racing. Now the classics riders don't even race Tirreno in order to prepare better for San Remo. Tenerife training camp is the thing now it seems
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Old 02-06-13, 13:03
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Cyclists think racing is the best preparation over specialised training because historically and currently, cyclists could not afford to not be racing and showing their sponsors.

If you started from scratch with a comfortable budget, you wouldn't just race 90 days a year if the idea was to be as good as possible for 21 days.
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Sky seems to be taking the approach of not racing. Now the classics riders don't even race Tirreno in order to prepare better for San Remo. Tenerife training camp is the thing now it seems
Yes I read an article were they are attempting to use scientific measurements in training to replace actual racing.

One wonders if race rhythm can be duplicated outside a race.

The same approach has been used in training race horses in the last 5+ years, as long as the connections are okay with the horse coming into a race 'needing the race'. It has worked well for some trainers, but is impossible to reproduce actual race conditions in training for horses.
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Yes I read an article were they are attempting to use scientific measurements in training to replace actual racing.

One wonders if race rhythm can be duplicated outside a race.

The same approach has been used in training race horses in the last 5+ years, as long as the connections are okay with the horse coming into a race 'needing the race'. It has worked well for some trainers, but is impossible to reproduce actual race conditions in training for horses.
The theory is that apparently, they can train harder and more consistently during training than during races.

Clearly, this may not be the case when in 'the mix' during a race, though I can see what they are getting at, if for example, a race was spent simply sat in the bunch.

In essence, it is easier to control the quality of training in a structured environment, than the old-school way of racing to train...
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The theory is that apparently, they can train harder and more consistently during training than during races.

Clearly, this may not be the case when in 'the mix' during a race, though I can see what they are getting at, if for example, a race was spent simply sat in the bunch.

In essence, it is easier to control the quality of training in a structured environment, than the old-school way of racing to train...
In a modern peloton where so few are "racing" the approach looks viable.
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