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Old 02-06-13, 13:36
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When of the best forms of training for any endurance sport is interval training, you can't do this during a race and you need recovery time from a hard training session, so not possible between races.

Other than that you need some races as prep, but these need to be competitive so you can't use them as training.
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In a modern peloton where so few are "racing" the approach looks viable.
which riders are doing this?
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which riders are doing this?
doing what? Sorry, I don't understand your question.
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doing what? Sorry, I don't understand your question.
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In essence, it is easier to control the quality of training in a structured environment, than the old-school way of racing to train...
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In essence, it is easier to control the quality of training in a structured environment, than the old-school way of racing to train...
well, nobody does it except Sky. With lots of piano and group riding in races these days (although the season has started on a high note imo), I can somewhat see where Sky is coming from. Lets see if it works out in the spring classics.

(if I understood your question)
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Old 02-08-13, 11:17
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well, nobody does it except Sky. With lots of piano and group riding in races these days (although the season has started on a high note imo), I can somewhat see where Sky is coming from. Lets see if it works out in the spring classics.

(if I understood your question)
I have impression that Sky's methodology is slightly different than using races for training in traditional sense.
From what we can see, they're combining blocks of trainings and races just like everybody else. But looks like the difference is in intensity of racing. They're leaving impression that they're doing the races all-out. Treating them like time checks in a tt. After every time check (race) they have feedback about their current maximum level and what should be done till the next time check.
Also, this kind of approach, besides informations about their absolute level of fitness, gives them opportunity to compare themselves in relative terms - against rivals.
In short, they use races like tests of their limits, instead like part of programed long - term training. That's the difference between their and traditional approach.
Getting used to winning is useful side effect.
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Old 02-08-13, 11:37
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I have impression that Sky's methodology is slightly different than using races for training in traditional sense.
From what we can see, they're combining blocks of trainings and races just like everybody else. But looks like the difference is in intensity of racing.

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Old 02-08-13, 14:07
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William Fotheringham in the Guardian today has said Froome is down to ride Liege-Bastogne-Liege with Wiggins...
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good. they can help uran and henao there
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and JTL

he targets the ardennes triple
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