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View Poll Results: Who will win 2013 GIRO?
Nibali 90 32.03%
Rodriguez 29 10.32%
Hesjedal 16 5.69%
Basso 9 3.20%
Wiggins 106 37.72%
Scarponi 2 0.71%
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Old 11-25-12, 16:41
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Fuglsang's media activity obviously prevails over his results. Overly strange decision by Astana.
astana often completely miss the boat with their transfers. nibali will be another huge disapointment, then there's brajkovic, kreuziger and a ton of others
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Old 11-25-12, 16:47
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astana often completely miss the boat with their transfers. nibali will be another huge disapointment, then there's brajkovic, kreuziger and a ton of others
ton? Kreuziger have not been as good as we hoped, but noone thought Brajko would do any better than a top 10 in the tour.
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Yes, but I think it could be too optimistic too. Fuglsang's recovery still causes many questions. He can easily finish one of the 3rd week stages in a sprinter grupetto.

Fuglsang flat out sucks on steep climbs, too. Kitzbuheler Horn proved that he didn't improve in that regard. He got his *** beat by Di Luca and a number of third and fourth-tier climbers.
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Old 11-25-12, 16:57
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ton? Kreuziger have not been as good as we hoped, but noone thought Brajko would do any better than a top 10 in the tour.
I will post a number of the abysmal transfers astana have gotten in recent years and brajkovic makes a ton of money and they got him to be a leader in gt. just as much of a joke as fuglsang is now and he's also making a ton of money at astana

brajkovic
kreuziger
petrov
bozic
masciarelli
seeldrayers
allan davis
pereiro


and those are just from past few years
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Fuglsang flat out sucks on steep climbs, too. Kitzbuheler Horn proved that he didn't improve in that regard. He got his *** beat by Di Luca and a number of third and fourth-tier climbers.
exactly. also the stretch is off, of him as well. we haven't seen improvement in a few years, not even in hgis specialties like itt or rouleur
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Fuglsang flat out sucks on steep climbs, too. Kitzbuheler Horn proved that he didn't improve in that regard. He got his *** beat by Di Luca and a number of third and fourth-tier climbers.
True. I'd even say on the climbs with the average grade >=7%. Any continuous 9 and more % sector and ... Fuglsang is dropped like a cork. Jani got slimmer for the last few years and his TT is for him too. Why do Astana prefer Fuglsang?? Probably he guaranteed them something?

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Fuglsang flat out sucks on steep climbs, too. Kitzbuheler Horn proved that he didn't improve in that regard. He got his *** beat by Di Luca and a number of third and fourth-tier climbers.
are there steep climbs in the Tour?
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I will post a number of the abysmal transfers astana have gotten in recent years and brajkovic makes a ton of money and they got him to be a leader in gt. just as much of a joke as fuglsang is now and he's also making a ton of money at astana

brajkovic - ton of money? you got his salary, please share with me
kreuziger - agreed
petrov - He is a good domestique, was he any better before?
bozic - yea, we all knew he was the new Cav...
masciarelli - retired because of something, we don't know why (?)
seeldrayers - He was bought as a dometique (what i mean by that is that he came to Astana after the most extreme hype had dissapeared)
allan davis - never that good anyway, but i agree that he has improved in GreenEdge)
pereiro - .......


and those are just from past few years
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are there steep climbs in the Tour?
It is obviously the case for Fuglsang.
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Old 11-25-12, 17:33
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Default Ivan Basso will win his 3rd Giro in 2013

Ivan Basso is going to disappoint many British who watch cycling since this year's Tour
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