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View Poll Results: Who will win 2013 GIRO?
Nibali 90 32.03%
Rodriguez 29 10.32%
Hesjedal 16 5.69%
Basso 9 3.20%
Wiggins 106 37.72%
Scarponi 2 0.71%
Others 29 10.32%
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Old 11-25-12, 18:54
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True. I'd even say on the climbs with the average grade >=7%. Any continuous 9 and more % sector and ... Fuglsang is dropped like a cork. Jani got slimmer for the last few years and his TT is for him too. Why do Astana prefer Fuglsang?? Probably he guaranteed them something?
brajkovic got slimmer? he was 177x52 he only got heavier and thank god for that
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ton? Kreuziger have not been as good as we hoped, but noone thought Brajko would do any better than a top 10 in the tour.
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losing weight?? dombrowski is 188 and 68 kg
JTL-http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tiernan-locke-hoping-to-ride-a-grand-tour-in-2013

I did for Brajkovic, it was the only reason he was in my CQ team.
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sorry, my bad. I thought was about donbrowski, but I read now you said jtl. I hate those shorts of names
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Ivan Basso is going to disappoint many British who watch cycling since this year's Tour
Ivan is on the slippery slope, heading in the same direction as Dennis Menchov. He won't make the podium I don't think. His last good grand tour was the 2010 Giro.
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Ivan is on the slippery slope, heading in the same direction as Dennis Menchov. He won't make the podium I don't think. His last good grand tour was the 2010 Giro.
He was ok.in 2011 tour considering his preparation was badly messed up by the may etna crash
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Old 11-27-12, 13:55
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He was ok.in 2011 tour considering his preparation was badly messed up by the may etna crash
I suppose, all things considered, it wasn't a bad performance. I thought he was disappointing in the this year's Giro though.
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brajkovic got slimmer? he was 177x52 he only got heavier and thank god for that
Such riders don't exist. He would have blown away from the peloton on flat. Brajkovic is 58 as minimum.



Previous 5 years clearly show that TT's decide more than mountains if we look into contenders of comparable level. There is a 50 km TT. Basso will lose to Wiggins 3 minutes in case of the best scenario. The main problem is he can not get away on pedalabele climbs and the stages are not difficult enough that the opponents would be dropped due to tiredness. Next year he won't have a team. I don't see Basso get on the podium if 2-3 main contenders won't fail.

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I suppose, all things considered, it wasn't a bad performance. I thought he was disappointing in the this year's Giro though.
Very very disappointing if we consider Scarponi wasn't the Scarponi of 2011 and Kreuziger did a crappy race. The shadow of the 2010 Basso would had won the Giro.
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Very very disappointing if we consider Scarponi wasn't the Scarponi of 2011 and Kreuziger did a crappy race. The shadow of the 2010 Basso would had won the Giro.
i would even add "easily"
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I think people underrate the general level of this year's Giro because of 2 facts maybe:
- a new guy won;
- to elevate the Vuelta even more.
. Yes, the riders behaved too cautiously because everyone felt he's not stronger or stronger not that much to get away. They could ride faster in case someone could have shaken the race a bit. But to say they were weak is ridiculous.

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