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Old 11-18-12, 10:29
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And this contributes to the discussion... what? "My girlfriend agrees with me". Good for you, son.
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Old 11-18-12, 10:45
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my girlfriend btw is a female cyclists and she actually hates woman cycling and woman sports in general. if she ever watches sport, which is usually only cycling. she watches only the men. she fits me like a glove
Does your girlfriend know you see women as pathetic?
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People know I donít like her [Vania Rossi] racing, you can imagine what I think about her taking anything. Cycling isnít for women, it hurts too much.
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And this contributes to the discussion... what? "My girlfriend agrees with me". Good for you, son.
no, it contributes to the discussion that woman often(in my experience) prefer male sport over female sports(see also football). so the whole sexist argument flies out of the window.
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Old 11-18-12, 11:19
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pathetic in sports yes. not pathetic in everything else. big difference
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Old 11-18-12, 15:11
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I am actually surprised that RyoSan even have a gf.
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Old 11-18-12, 19:46
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no, it contributes to the discussion that woman often(in my experience) prefer male sport over female sports(see also football). so the whole sexist argument flies out of the window.
Unless you'd want to argue that both men and women are sexist against women, as I'm sure some would if this was established scientifically.

I agree, though, there's not much difference between male and female sports fans, in my experience. Most want the same: to see the world's best athletes in a given sport and specialism compete with each other. There are other kinds of sports fans to be sure, but for most sports (there are sports where the gender gap doesn't matter much or at all, visually) most want to see the best of the best.

That doesn't mean that there is no room for pro women's sports in addition to pro men's sports, but for MOST sports (again, there are exceptions) the men's sport has to be sufficiently big first.
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Old 11-18-12, 20:37
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. Most want the same: to see the world's best athletes in a given sport and specialism compete with each other. There are other kinds of sports fans to be sure, but for most sports (there are sports where the gender gap doesn't matter much or at all, visually) most want to see the best of the best.
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If this were true how comes 90% of sports fans only watch football and most of them only watch their local league.

it seems to me that people only watch what they think is important. In india thats their cricket league in the us nfl in europe and south america the respective football leagues etc.
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Old 11-19-12, 07:17
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If this were true how comes 90% of sports fans only watch football and most of them only watch their local league.

it seems to me that people only watch what they think is important. In india thats their cricket league in the us nfl in europe and south america the respective football leagues etc.
That's not what I meant, silly. We were discussing the relative popularity of men's sports versus women's sports in a certain field, exceptions where the gender gap doesn't matter (much) from an "entertainment" point of view notwithstanding. Fine, the best individuals on a national level, in a national league, in a pro sport that happens to have a certain popularity in a certain country / culture. LOL, how argumentative can you get? Way to sidetrack the issue.

Women's pro sports are relatively impopular across the globe. At some point it stops being a cultural or country-specific "problem".

A key point that feminists ignore, is that men are not just physically and tactically superior, but also naturally much more likely to be daredevils. That matters so much in sports like road cycling (sprints, descents, etc.)

No, it's not fair to women. But it's so much more unfair to the handicapped and probably even more so for the intersexed. It's also not fair to the vast majority of normal, comparatively biologically "disadvantaged" men. That's the beauty of it all... it isn't fair.
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Old 11-19-12, 09:32
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It shouldn't be surprising that some fans of a sport dominated by white, Caucasian men hold views such as the one above. Just by displaying an interest in women's racing you're considered a "feminist" in the eyes of these people.
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