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Old 12-12-12, 12:41
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Who was Porte in amateurs if we compare him to VG?
Doesn't matter. Both have zero chance to ever win a GT, and is both over-hyped anglos..
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Which just shows that he doesn't have the brain to win a GT (just like Andy), and that he should focus on week long stage races.

TJVG has the same GT winning potential as Porte and that is 0.
+1 When in Rome?

TJ's brain might be fixable, Andy's seems permanently damaged.
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no he couldn't van garderen sucks at steep climbs. also talansky was the only rider to finish within a minute of quintana in the avenir mountain itt. that vaeraged over 7 watt for quintana! the rest all lost 2 minutes or more
Van Garderen is more explosive than Talansky on steep hills. Talansky lost about a minute every time on those walls. Van Garderen as a neo pro got 6th in Valdepeñas. So that evens it out.

What Talansky did in an Avenir TT doesn't matter in this regard. Van Garderen probably could have done the same.
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He was the winner of Circuito Montañés with 21 years. He was there in Alpe D'Huez Dauphiné 2010 with 22 years. Then showed good climbing skills in this TDF especially in the CDF ascent when the favourites only could stay at Sky wheel. Then in Peyragudes with guys like Valverde or Van Den Broeck. Hes not a superclimber but he can improve in the mountains and challenge for the nexts TDFs.
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Old 12-12-12, 12:57
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He was the winner of Circuito Montañés with 21 years. He was there in Alpe D'Huez Dauphiné 2010 with 22 years. Then showed good climbing skills in this TDF especially in the CDF ascent when the favourites only could stay at Sky wheel. Then in Peyragudes with guys like Valverde or Van Den Broeck. Hes not a superclimber but he can improve in the mountains and challenge for the nexts TDFs.
If you ask me who could potentially be a better climber, between Van Garderen and Porte, I'm inclined to say Porte. Tejay got dropped like a stone when Porte went full throttle in the Algarve, and in the Dauphiné. The guy is 63 kg, he's really built more like a climber than a time trialist.
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Old 12-12-12, 12:58
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Potentially. He hasnt demontrated yet. And his trajectory is so irregular.
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Potentially. He hasnt demontrated yet. And his trajectory is so irregular.
He hasn't demonstrated yet? How did he not demonstrate it when he dropped Van Garderen on climbs, numerous times?

He just hasn't had a chance to ride for himself in GTs, except for the first time, when he got 7th or something.
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Nunerous times? Algarve and? Dauphiné? Van Garderen is younger than Richie. Take it in count.
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You mean Dauphiné 2012? Haha Was Van Garderen in top shape? NO by far. And Richie Porte ride for Sky. VG would be something like Greg Lemond if he would be a member of the friends group of Sky.
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Who was Porte in amateurs if we compare him to VG?
porte started cycling very late(in his 20) but rode amazingly as soon as he hit the scene. I remember how he hammered the baby giro itt
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